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HL Leopard with Gyro...£700?

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Postby wibblywobbly » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:25 pm

This is on the Haya website.

http://www.hayaltd.co.uk/Heng_Long_leopard_2A6_with_Gyro_system_IR_version_--_pre_Order_Only_!!/p191100_16912715.aspx

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Postby tomhugill » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:09 pm

Horizontal gyros are pretty easy, it's the vertical axis that seems difficult to get right and the video doesn't show that. For £700 I can get a tamiya type 10 with a hobby radio, gyro functions and proper sound. I'll have some of what they're smoking over there!

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Postby jarndice » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:11 pm

That is impressive BUT it would have been more so if it was running on a less smooth surface, But the engine note was brilliant.
Shaun.

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Postby 971wright » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:45 pm

Hi Would be nice to see what electrics its using ,and if its the full metal lower with the new type gearbox and motors , the one on the video seemed to have plastic tracks.

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Postby frankie » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:52 pm

...according to the advert it's a std plastic leopard... :O :O :O

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Postby Tiggr » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:01 am

Excellent sound
Excellent R/C engineering
Excellent looking tank

It would be even better if -

It was shot outdoors in a suitable setting.
The speed of the manouevres was slowed down by 50%
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Postby tomhugill » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:05 am

He's showing off the effectiveness of the gyro. It's a shame he doesn't demonstrate the vertical stabilisation. Also a stock plastic hl Leo for that money's insane

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Postby maxmekker » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:17 pm

And that he loaded the propper sounds... Thats a ww2 engine rumbling in the leo :/ :D


would rather spend my Money on a Challenger ore M1 With the tk60 G2

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Postby greengiant » Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:42 am

Max, the Abrams main gun is hand loaded and doesn't automatically raise after each shot for an autoloader to reload it. Makes for faster reloads.
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Postby tomhugill » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:23 am

greengiant wrote:Max, the Abrams main gun is hand loaded and doesn't automatically raise after each shot for an autoloader to reload it. Makes for faster reloads.


That function can Ben turned off

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Postby c.rainford73 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:01 pm

I must admit all of these tanks videos are quite nice. I've never ventured into modern armour but the speed and functionality of these beasts is quite impressive

I do like the price tag of a challenger or M1 or Leo with the Clark tk60 option though.

Thanks for sharing!
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Postby Mexanik » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:03 pm

Можно поставить два вертолётных гироскопа , на ствол и на вращение башни . Отключать их тумблером на пульте !
Как то так вот !

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Postby silversurfer1947 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:10 pm

Mexanik wrote:Можно поставить два вертолётных гироскопа , на ствол и на вращение башни . Отключать их тумблером на пульте !
Как то так вот !


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You can put two helicopter gyroscope on the trunk and on the tower rotation. Turn off the main switch of the remote!
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Postby tomhugill » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:47 pm

silversurfer1947 wrote:
Mexanik wrote:Можно поставить два вертолётных гироскопа , на ствол и на вращение башни . Отключать их тумблером на пульте !
Как то так вот !


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You can put two helicopter gyroscope on the trunk and on the tower rotation. Turn off the main switch of the remote!
Something like this here!



That won't work, I've experimented with helicopter gyros and they're passable for
Rotation but don't work for elevation.

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Postby Mexanik » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:56 pm

А в чём проблема ?
По вертикали гироскоп отрабатывает отлично , быструю серву ставите и отлично !
По горизонтали на поворот башни надо делать так :
Разобрать серво на 360 градусов . Взять только плату управления серво . Припаять в место двигателя серво быстрый редуктор .
С таким быстрым редуктором башня будет успевать отрабатывать при поворотах и разворотах танка .
Я пробовал , но у меня танки Великой Отечественной Войны , там гироскопов не было !

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Postby silversurfer1947 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:00 pm

Mexanik wrote:А в чём проблема ?
По вертикали гироскоп отрабатывает отлично , быструю серву ставите и отлично !
По горизонтали на поворот башни надо делать так :
Разобрать серво на 360 градусов . Взять только плату управления серво . Припаять в место двигателя серво быстрый редуктор .
С таким быстрым редуктором башня будет успевать отрабатывать при поворотах и разворотах танка .
Я пробовал , но у меня танки Великой Отечественной Войны , там гироскопов не было !

What's the problem ?
Vertical Gyro fulfills perfectly, fast servo bet and excellent!
Horizontal rotation of the tower is necessary to do so:
Disassemble the servo to 360 degrees. Take only the servo control board. Solder in place of the servo motor reducer fast.
With such rapid gear tower will have time to work out at the corners and turns of the tank.
I tried, but I tanks of World War II, there was no gyros!

Not sure Google Translate has full captured the original intentions.
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Postby silversurfer1947 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:32 am

The tank is now available, along with the Challenger. Slight drawback, the price is now £800.
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Postby tomhugill » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:46 am

Watching the video of the challenger the turret rotation when stabilised seems very jerky like the gyros trying to catch up quickly then slows down then speeds up.

I see he's still not shown footage of the vertical stabilisation either.

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Postby Ad Lav » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:01 am

Opt for the Tamiya type 10 and keep some change lol
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Postby Tiggr » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:33 pm

You could also buy a TK60 fully loaded mainly metal Torro tank (Take you pick of which model) including radio for £800 and still have change to buy a Jeep or a Kubelwagen.....
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