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Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:43 am
by DavidByrden
I don't quite understand what you are asking. There was no standard rain guard there.
David
Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:27 am
by jarndice
Kiaser, Hi, I think we are all being taken here! If you look at the Photograph with the mg ball mount and visor and compare the whole alleged "metal structure" against the surrounding grass and its hight and density then the Tiger 1 mantlet looks a lot closer to 1/16 then to 1/1 Just look at the grass growing through the Cupola centre, it looks way out of full size

shaun
Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:50 am
by RobW
The track to the right might help scale. That's also meadow grass not the stuff you (normally) have in the lawn.
Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:08 am
by jarndice
I am sorry, but it looks photoshopped to me, there is grass growing through the centre of the cupola and yet nothing coming through the ball mount and the more I look at the mantlet the more wrong it looks in relation to its background, and the visor looks more like one of my early efforts in Tank building!

shaun
Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:36 pm
by DavidByrden
It's a real Tiger, but I don't know anything about it except what's written on that page.
I've never seen such a rain guard anywhere else, and I look at a lot of Tigers!
David
Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:26 pm
by DavidByrden
Kiaser wrote:
And this is what I can not understand we can capture 131 no problem but a late tiger 1 not one complete

There is a complete Late Tiger in Saumur museum, France.
The Allies captured a few Tigers during the course of the war, and most of them were destroyed by gunnery testing. By the end of the war they already had the information that they needed, so a Late Tiger was not very interesting to them.
David
Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:19 pm
by DavidByrden
Kiaser wrote:Have a look at the guard it is one continuous weld that is not a field mod

So what are we looking at a Late , Late tiger I .
If the Tiger's chassis number is 251097, as the page claims, then it's not a "late late" Tiger.
I don't think that weld is beyond the capabilities of a field worker.
David
Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:55 pm
by edpanzer
I know welders that can weld straight and true no matter what the conditions for example 15 ft down a narrow trench in slop almost welly deep people take pride in a good job done then as well as now.
Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:17 pm
by edpanzer
Does it matter that much? Just add it to your build don't matter if it was done in the factory or field you have proof at least one tank had it so it will be right.
Re: Rain guard tiger 1
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:35 am
by tanks_for_the_memory

- Tiger 1 drivers visor with rain guard.jpg (47.79 KiB) Viewed 661 times
Here's what we have all been talking about. It looks real enough to me.
A lot of German armour (or parts thereof) has surfaced in the Kurland area (Courland, now in Latvia) in the last few years. The peninsula was cut off by the Russian Bagration offensive towards the end of the war and surrendered 2 days after the official armistice.
This rain guard makes a a lot of sense - especially if you take account of falling snow (which could potentially freeze the visor solid). It's a great example of how we can still learn something new from battlefield remnants.
As David has said elsewhere, the Tigers we know from the surviving photographs are in a small minority. Most were never photographed or, if they were, the photos no longer survive (although these will keep surfacing as veterans die and their descendants publish what they have left behind).
Very exciting!