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Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:33 pm
by dgsselkirk
Newer HL don't have molded tools anymore. Interesting the full metal Mato Sherman that just came out and runs about $600U.S. apparently has molded tools!
Just depends on which model you want and whether they have a newer version or not.
Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:02 pm
by PainlessWolf
Good Afternoon,
You have to do a little bit of research on the tank you're interested in with each Manufacturer. Sometimes their higher end versions offer better options for detail. Sometimes not. I have one of Taigen's newest and best offerings, the Tiger1 Three In One kit and even there, the upper deck has the molded on plastic tools that will have to be removed before I can add better tools. Taigen also offers a high end ( 95% ) metal Sherman like Mato but the tools there are add ons I believe. Research is required before you buy.
regards,
Painless
Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:20 am
by jtracks
Hello, I've been following along and the new Taigen Sherman does have molded on tools. Here is a photo of the rear of mine.
Joe
Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:17 am
by ALPHA
dgsselkirk wrote: Interesting the full metal Mato Sherman that just came out and runs about $600U.S. apparently has molded tools!
Just depends on which model you want and whether they have a newer version or not.
Not sure what Mato Sherman you be looking at dgsselkirk

....but the one I saw the tools were separate

...interestingly enough ...those tools are sold separately too....also the little bits that hold them to the body of the tank
ALPHA
Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:09 am
by dgsselkirk
I'm not sure your looking at the right one Alpha. The Mato and Taigen are one in the same bodies as far as I know and the tools are molded on. The picture of Jtracks is the one that is painted but you can get a plain metal one
http://www.matotoys.com/prodview.php?pi ... &cate=Mato 1:16 Complete Metal M4A3(75)W Sherman Tank (BB / Recoil, Original Metal Color)&search=
To behonest it actually doesn't look bad. They did a nice job painting them up but if you want something original a lot of grinding involved...
Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:11 am
by PainlessWolf
Joe,
I have to say that those are some of the best looking molded on tools that I have ever seen. The hammer and shovel even stand proud of the deck. If I had to have molded on tools, those are top drawer.
regards,
Painless
Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:04 am
by ALPHA
dgsselkirk wrote:I'm not sure your looking at the right one Alpha.
The Mato and Taigen are one in the same bodies as far as I know and the tools are molded on.
NOT SO OBI ONE KIRK SAN

...How can they be the same if the Taigen has a plastic upper
Here's some Mato Photos

Dave also has them listed on his site
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mato-1-16-She ... 58bb8f5494
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mato-1-16-She ... 259c6fb813

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ALPHA
Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:14 am
by billpe
dgsselkirk wrote:I'm not sure your looking at the right one Alpha. The Mato and Taigen are one in the same bodies as far as I know and the tools are molded on. The picture of Jtracks is the one that is painted but you can get a plain metal one
http://www.matotoys.com/prodview.php?pi ... &cate=Mato 1:16 Complete Metal M4A3(75)W Sherman Tank (BB / Recoil, Original Metal Color)&search=
To behonest it actually doesn't look bad. They did a nice job painting them up but if you want something original a lot of grinding involved...
They're bolted on I think and can be removed.
Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:41 am
by ALPHA
Just another two cents...think the Taigen tools aren't molded on either.... you can't get that kind of air under molded on tools
ALPHA
Re: heng long vs taigen vs torro
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:34 pm
by jtracks
Here is a photo of the inside of the upper hull where the tools are mounted. I'm glad this subject came up or I would have missed this detail. It appears to me that the tools are add ons and not molded to the deck. When the tank came to me, the tools were already in place so I assumed they were molded onto the deck. Yes, I bought the tank new from Artistic Hobbies. The hammer head is slightly raised above the deck due to a piece that is either part of the hammer, or part of the deck, I can't tell.
Joe
