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				brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:23 am
				by spongehoobtank82
				Hey guys, I what to make some mudflap hinges for my tiger 1, I know how to do it I just have no idea what thickness/ gauge is appropriate, any ideas?. I have never worked with brass so don't know what thicknesses' are easily malleable but strong enough! Cheers dudes
			 
			
					
				Re: brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:47 am
				by ALPHA
				spongehoobtank82 wrote:Hey guys, I what to make some mudflap hinges for my tiger 1, I know how to do it I just have no idea what thickness/ gauge is appropriate, any ideas?. I have never worked with brass so don't know what thicknesses' are easily malleable but strong enough! Cheers dudes
20 to 24 gauge is good...24 might be a little light ...but it is the approx thickness of PE ...make sure you solder the hinge lips... as that thin gauge might open up again later  
 
Good Luck sponge  
 
ALPHA
 
			 
			
					
				Re: brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:16 am
				by jarndice
				Hallo, I have built both front and rear fenders for a Tiger 1 using a VOYAGER PE set, it is both frail and unnecessarily complicated, If I were to build another set of fenders I would avoid any form of metal in the construction because to get the right scale of metal thickness will mean the fenders are too flimsy, When I started building mine I dispenced of a lot of PE and substituted 1mm plasticard, and were I to build fenders again that is the only material I would use except I would use 2mm, if you have access to a template of the front and rear fenders that would be my direction plus I would go to a Dolls House accessories web site for hinges and slide bolts, ordinary (small) dressmakers pins make first class rivets and are used to join the hinges and slide bolts to the plasticard, pin vise through the plasticard, push in the pin  + a dab of super glue where the pins exit the back of the board, then when the glue is dry go round the back of the fenders with a pair of snips cutting the pins flush to the board, once painted you have a set of fully working front and rear fenders that will actually survive the knocks that a PE fender never will and look exactly right. shaun
			 
			
					
				Re: brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:30 am
				by ALPHA
				jarndice wrote:Hallo, I have built both front and rear fenders for a Tiger 1 using a VOYAGER PE set, it is both frail and unnecessarily complicated, If I were to build another set of fenders I would avoid any form of metal in the construction because to get the right scale of metal thickness will mean the fenders are too flimsy, When I started building mine I dispenced of a lot of PE and substituted 1mm plasticard, and were I to build fenders again that is the only material I would use except I would use 2mm, if you have access to a template of the front and rear fenders that would be my direction plus I would go to a Dolls House accessories web site for hinges and slide bolts, ordinary (small) dressmakers pins make first class rivets and are used to join the hinges and slide bolts to the plasticard + a dab of super glue, once painted you have a set of fully working front and rear fenders that will actually survive the knocks that a PE fender never will and look exactly right. shaun
Very interesting Shaun... I almost fabricated fenders for my L70....but when I thought about it... figured the fenders are the places I run into things the most  

 ....So I just left the stock plastic ones...as they are proven to be resilient to most impacts  

 .............. 
 
ALPHA
 
			 
			
					
				Re: brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:58 am
				by spongehoobtank82
				Cheers alpha, Shawn cheers for the info too, i was thinking of fabricating some front fenders so that's really going to help, as always guys you've all been great!
			 
			
					
				Re: brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:08 am
				by ALPHA
				spongehoobtank82 wrote:Cheers alpha, Shawn cheers for the info too, i was thinking of fabricating some front fenders so that's really going to help, as always guys you've all been great!
GOOD LUCK Sponge  
 
ALPHA
 
			 
			
					
				Re: brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:17 pm
				by DavidByrden
				jarndice wrote:if you have access to a template of the front and rear fenders that would be my direction 
I will post diagrams so that you can make templates, on request.
Please specify standard or "Africa" fenders.
David
 
			 
			
					
				Re: brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:32 pm
				by spongehoobtank82
				Thanks David DAK ones please, although am planning on an early production tiger soon so both plans would be helpful
Cheers
Leigh
			 
			
					
				Re: brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:27 pm
				by DavidByrden
				OK, let's start with the rear mudguards for the first 30 or so Tigers, which went to Leningrad and Africa.
These are the full-size dimensions, I suppose you can divide by 16?
The item is the same for both sides, don't mirror it.
David
 
			 
			
					
				Re: brass sheet thickness/gauge?
				Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:55 pm
				by spongehoobtank82
				Cheers David, I will give this a go and let you know how I get on 
