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From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:31 am
by AndyD
Hi all  ;D,

just seeking a spot of advice from the more experienced members. I am awaiting delivery of a HL Stug III (ordered from Andy at Military Might and I intend to make it my first "upgrade" project. I know it will have the HL IR battle system and recoiling main gun; but what other mods should I be looking at? I already have a set of tracks that I intended to put on a PzIII, along with drive and idlers. So starting from the ground up, what should I seriously look at? For example, is it important to change to an all metal running gear? i.e. all metal wheels, return rollers and suspension or can I get away with leaving some stock parts? Or will that be a false economy?

I assume that the internals are ok for the short term, what would you recommend for a future upgrade path? (to give me time to save for them and the Jagdpanther or Sherman or rumoured Comet!) Pete (971Wright) has kindly supplied the info on IR systems for me to digest slowly.

Not wanting to neglect the upper hull, that too will be subject to a bit of treatment (home-made Zimmeritt perhaps). Do you guy's shave off the tools etc and use after market ones? Is the addition of metal hatches etc a personal choice? I am also assuming here that the external MG42 will have to be replaced!

So perhaps, in a long winded way, I am asking which way to mod from the ground up? Is there a thread on here (I admit to not using the search button ::)) that covers all of my questions?

Thanks in advance guys!

Andy

;D

Re: From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:36 am
by Woz
Metal Tracks = Metal drive and ideler wheels = metal gear boxes = stiffer springs......................


and thats just the start.

Re: From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:55 am
by Mackem
Re-position and replace return rollers, fit idler adjustment mod, fit schurzen (optional but nice) ................

Re: From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:56 am
by AndyD
Thanks guy's; Keep it coming!

;D

Re: From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:38 am
by tiger205
like john said, the return rollers need to be repositioned, you can get metal return roller mounts from blueslateman and the like on ebay, the could be a weak link with all the weight you will be adding, it might pay to do the suspension also for the same reason

                  Tony 8)

Re: From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:06 am
by AndyD
tiger205 wrote: like john said, the return rollers need to be repositioned, you can get metal return roller mounts from blueslateman and the like on ebay, the could be a weak link with all the weight you will be adding, it might pay to do the suspension also for the same reason

                   Tony 8)
You mean to just uprating the springs or should I add the metal components? I take it that the metal road wheel option is overkill (apart from adding yet more weight!)

Re: From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:13 pm
by grompix
Hi Andy

I'm about half-way through completing my HL Stug III. I've fitted it with metal tracks, sprockets and idlers and the TamToys 3-1 low-profile brass gearboxes. I didn't bother with metal wheels or return rollers though as I've never had any trouble with my HL PzIII which I've run for over a year now. I think an essential mod is the track adjustment units though.

As you can see from the pics I did zim my model using a mixture of Crispy's plastic card/soldering iron technique and good old milliput. A lot of the tools on the HL Stug are removable anyway (I think only the shovel and axe is moulded in). I also removed the blue light and fitted a bright white LED in the front lamp on the glacis.

The schurtzen are made from sheet steel (like Pete Wright's). I'll be fitting Darkiths DBC/DBU IR combat system when it arrives.  I must say I'm quite impressed with the RX 18 multi-function unit. The model performs very well with good control and realistic speeds (with the 3-1 gearboxes)

I find the springs on the first and last roadwheels a bit too stiff anyway and I deliberately weakened the ones on my PzIII so the model doesn't bounce around as much. I'll be doing the same on my Stug.  Oh yes, I nearly forgot - used Pete Wright's gun recoil mod too.

Cheers  ;D

Chris 

Re: From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:19 pm
by BREL
nice looking Stug chris

Re: From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:31 pm
by AndyD
Chris,

Thanks for the input!  ;D

That's the kind of finish/level I am looking at for mine  ;)

Cheers

Andy

Re: From the ground up!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:14 pm
by Plastic scouser
Nice Stug Chris just one question WHERE WAS THE BUILD THREAD !!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers Ian