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Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:09 am
by JTS
Hi Oz
When I saw you were re painting S33 I was somewhat alarmed as to how could you improve on should a fantastic paint job/tank!
looking at the way your latest paint job is going it will be every bit as good if not beter than S33
Can I ask how long you have been painting models/tanks?
I am only at the priming of my tank stage and like many others may I thank you for being so free with you knowledge and advice, you are an iinspiration to many of the members in this forum.
Once again many thanks on your thread and advice
Jim
Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:17 pm
by oz
JTS wrote:
Hi Oz
When I saw you were re painting S33 I was somewhat alarmed as to how could you improve on should a fantastic paint job/tank!
looking at the way your latest paint job is going it will be every bit as good if not beter than S33
Can I ask how long you have been painting models/tanks?
I am only at the priming of my tank stage and like many others may I thank you for being so free with you knowledge and advice, you are an iinspiration to many of the members in this forum.
Once again many thanks on your thread and advice
Jim
hi jim.
many thanks for your kind words, i have been interested in modeling about 30yrs but only in the last 10 have i been happy with what i am doing, i spent about half my life in the military and there wasn't a lot of time or chances to advance in my painting skills. it was only after i left that i started to learn and experiment on my models, trying something new on your expensive fresh out of the box tank can be a bit daunting the simple reason is you/we don't want to screw it up after paying so much for it which is very understandable but at some stage you may want to take the plunge and add that bit of extra painting detail.
i must admit i wasn't sure if a in-depth paint guide would work, i didn't want guys thinking i was trying to tell then how to paint their stuff and i didn't want an in-depth guide to look like an idiots guide too painting tanks, i think if one guy tries this method then great it was worth it, i would recommend asking lots of questions talking to different people remember your plan of action and finally just have a go.
i,m busy working on the scrapes and scratches and with the weekend almost here wont be posting any pics until about Monday so i,m gonna have a bit of a break, its inspiring and motivating for me when you guys take the time and effort to ask questions and show a genuine interest in this thread so for that i say thank you very much indeed, and if (
IF ) you are not happy with your paint job then use Mr muscle ovan cleaner and this will strip the model back down too the primer, so in that respect the only thing you have lost is a bit of time instead of your new tank...................
cheers tony.
Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:11 pm
by oz
Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:55 pm
by STEINER
Oz,
Here are a few pictures that you wanted. Camos done and I applied the pastels. The shading from the pastel is hard to see, I think, because the pastel colouring is very similar to the Tri colour camo. I found applying the pastels hard to do.

Harder than the airbrushing !! I plan to tone down the gray areas where the Zim has been removed, may be with a hull red wash ? Dont know whether to paint in the tools before putting on the Klear ? what do you think. Anyway, this is my first attempt at painting a 1/16 model tank and my first time with the airbrush and I think its alright. I will continue to post the pics as I progress.
Cheers again for this great tutorial.
STEINER
Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:12 pm
by Saxondog
Steiner that is a great camo job,did you seal the base with the klear before painting in the camo colors or after?Was the overspray an issue? I hope to catch up with you guys this weekend,once again great job hope mine looks as good? SAX
Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:35 pm
by oz
STEINER wrote:
Oz,
Here are a few pictures that you wanted. Camos done and I applied the pastels. The shading from the pastel is hard to see, I think, because the pastel colouring is very similar to the Tri colour camo. I found applying the pastels hard to do.

Harder than the airbrushing !! I plan to tone down the gray areas where the Zim has been removed, may be with a hull red wash ? Dont know whether to paint in the tools before putting on the Klear ? what do you think. Anyway, this is my first attempt at painting a 1/16 model tank and my first time with the airbrush and I think its alright. I will continue to post the pics as I progress.
Cheers again for this great tutorial.
STEINER
EXCELLENT BLOODY EXCELLENT!, that is gonna look so good when its finished, as for the tools i like to paint them after the klear is on that way if you put any paint from the tools onto the model its easy too wipe off without staining the original paint work, keep it up mate thats a great job you are doing............oz
Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:58 pm
by STEINER
Saxondog wrote:
Steiner that is a great camo job,did you seal the base with the varnish before painting in the camo colors or after?Was the overspray an issue? I hope to catch up with you guys this weekend,once again great job hope mine looks as good? SAX
SAX, Thanks for your kind comments.
I base coated the entire Tank in Tamiya Hull red and then sprayed Tam dark yellow on top ( I did this before I saw Ozs thread tutorial on the forum ) I did not seal the base with varnish before applying the camo. I just followed Ozs instructions. Now, for my thoughts on over spray, this is what I experienced. To get a tight pattern without a lot of over spray I mixed the paint at 2/1, thinners to paint, and set the compressor at 20psi. To fill the camo pattern in, I reduced the psi down to about 10. this gave me more control up close, to fill the pattern in. If I tried to initially put the camo pattern in at this pressure, I got a lot of over spray. I also found that when you are using acrylics the nossle cap/needle tip can dry out after you have been spraying for a while and this can lead to stop/start paint flow/splattering. I carefully used an artists brush with thinners to keep it clean. It was a tricky pattern to do and there is about 12-13 hours work there and it has taken a week. Very labour intensive, but it gave me a lot of practise

LOL.
Good luck with your painting and I look forward to your pics.
Cheers.
STEINER
Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:06 pm
by STEINER
oz wrote:
STEINER wrote:
Oz,
Here are a few pictures that you wanted. Camos done and I applied the pastels. The shading from the pastel is hard to see, I think, because the pastel colouring is very similar to the Tri colour camo. I found applying the pastels hard to do.

Harder than the airbrushing !! I plan to tone down the gray areas where the Zim has been removed, may be with a hull red wash ? Dont know whether to paint in the tools before putting on the Klear ? what do you think. Anyway, this is my first attempt at painting a 1/16 model tank and my first time with the airbrush and I think its alright. I will continue to post the pics as I progress.
Cheers again for this great tutorial.
STEINER
EXCELLENT BLOODY EXCELLENT!, that is gonna look so good when its finished, as for the tools i like to paint them after the klear is on that way if you put any paint from the tools onto the model its easy too wipe off without staining the original paint work, keep it up mate thats a great job you are doing............oz
Oz,
Thanks for your words of encouragement it is much appreciated. I will spray it with Klear before I paint the tools in. Would you paint the tools before the wash was applied ? Also, can you apply pastels after the Klear has been sprayed on ? could the pastels be then removed if the effect was not right ?
Cheers.
STEINER.
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Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:41 pm
by oz
hi mate.
yes i would paint the tools after you spray on the klear and then put the wash through the tools and the tank at the same time,
because the tank is glossed over its almost impossible to get the pastels to stick to the paint, once the oil wash has dried spray on the first coat of Matt varnish and then you can put on more pastels if you need them, one more thing if you are putting on decals do this while the tank has the klear on.
..................oz
Re: painting/weathering panzer Grey.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:52 pm
by STEINER
oz wrote:
hi mate.
yes i would paint the tools after you spray on the klear and then put the wash through the tools and the tank at the same time,
because the tank is glossed over its almost impossible to get the pastels to stick to the paint, once the oil wash has dried spray on the first coat of Matt varnish and then you can put on more pastels if you need them, one more thing if you are putting on decals do this while the tank has the klear on.
..................oz
Oz
you must have been reading my mind about the decals. I was thinking of giving it 3 coats of Klear then apply the decals then another 3 coats of klear on top ?
STEINER