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Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:39 am
by Bassetus44
Churchill, Cromwell or Centurion would all be fine for me.

Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:28 am
by Snowwolflair
One Centurion is never enough :D

I suspect the Tamiya one will have more detail and the Hoya one will be a good basis for one of many ARV types, happy days, especially if it can be purchased as parts..

Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:13 pm
by lmcq11
Haya now has the benefits of seeing what the competition offers before releasing theirs. There is a lot of room for a better offering. Pretty sure most guys want a later version of an upgraded Centurion with a 105mm gun or an IDF Sho’t Kal with Blazer Reactive armour.

A very visible and tricky area to reproduce on any Centurion version is the canvas cover on the huge mantlet. Most vendors have a fail score even for 1/35 static kits. Tamiya decided to go with a cheap and ugly unrealistic plastic solution. Haya has a chance here to impress us with a better solution.

Personally, i would not want my 1/16 Centurion mantlet to look like an opened organ with a 20pd gun sticked into it.
Centurion canvas cover
Centurion canvas cover
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Shown here is an upgraded solution for 1/35 kits. Now, making such part flexible for gun elevation is the main challenge for any 1/16 Centurion Mk III build. Later Centurion versions with a smaller canvas cover are easier.
Centurion canvas cover
Centurion canvas cover
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Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:27 pm
by tomhugill
lmcq11 wrote:Haya now has the benefits of seeing what the competition offers before releasing theirs. There is a lot of room for a better offering. Pretty sure most guys want a later version of an upgraded Centurion with a 105mm gun or an IDF Sho’t Kal with Blazer Reactive armour.

A very visible and tricky area to reproduce on any Centurion version is the canvas cover on the huge mantlet. Most vendors have a fail score even for 1/35 static kits. Tamiya decided to go with a cheap and ugly unrealistic plastic solution. Haya has a chance here to impress us with a better solution.

Personally, i would not want my 1/16 Centurion mantlet to look like an opened organ with a 20pd gun sticked into it.
Capture14.JPG
Shown here is an upgraded solution for 1/35 kits. Now, making such part flexible for gun elevation is the main challenge for any 1/16 Centurion Mk III build. Later Centurion versions with a smaller canvas cover are easier.
Capture30.JPG
Canvas covers are a bitch, I sorta managed one on my MK3 centurion.

On such a big area I think I would be very difficult to mass produce one that flexed and looked right. Is tamiyas solution perfect no, is there a perfect solution that could be reasonably durable and done to a cost, I'm not sure. At least you get a display one.

The MK3 imo is the iconic centurion for most of us. Its the one saw action in Korea and the one many of us had in dinky form! Image

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Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:34 pm
by Snowwolflair
I plan to make a thin silicone rubber cast of their plastic version with the orifices modified. This will flex and if I dye the rubber wont need painted.

Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:59 pm
by 971wright
tomhugill wrote:
lmcq11 wrote:Haya now has the benefits of seeing what the competition offers before releasing theirs. There is a lot of room for a better offering. Pretty sure most guys want a later version of an upgraded Centurion with a 105mm gun or an IDF Sho’t Kal with Blazer Reactive armour.

A very visible and tricky area to reproduce on any Centurion version is the canvas cover on the huge mantlet. Most vendors have a fail score even for 1/35 static kits. Tamiya decided to go with a cheap and ugly unrealistic plastic solution. Haya has a chance here to impress us with a better solution.

Personally, i would not want my 1/16 Centurion mantlet to look like an opened organ with a 20pd gun sticked into it.
Capture14.JPG
Shown here is an upgraded solution for 1/35 kits. Now, making such part flexible for gun elevation is the main challenge for any 1/16 Centurion Mk III build. Later Centurion versions with a smaller canvas cover are easier.
Capture30.JPG
Canvas covers are a bitch, I sorta managed one on my MK3 centurion.

On such a big area I think I would be very difficult to mass produce one that flexed and looked right. Is tamiyas solution perfect no, is there a perfect solution that could be reasonably durable and done to a cost, I'm not sure. At least you get a display one.

The MK3 imo is the iconic centurion for most of us. Its the one saw action in Korea and the one many of us had in dinky form! Image

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One advantage Tom we may well be able to get some tracks for our Centurions.
regards pete

Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:06 pm
by Rad_Schuhart
Kaczor wrote:And again open pin tracks...
I thought I was the only one annoyed by that!

Can't understand the reason tamiya does it that way.

Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:08 pm
by Ad Lav
Might have to get one of these should it come to the market in the spring!

Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:48 pm
by Ad Lav
Link to video that actually works…

https://tamiyablog.com/2021/11/future-t ... -tank-mk3/

Re: New British RC Tank from Tamiya

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:18 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
Ad Lav wrote:Link to video that actually works…

https://tamiyablog.com/2021/11/future-t ... -tank-mk3/
Thanks, Adam. It's very tempting I must say. :) As usual, the detailing is crisp and well-defined.I thought I saw a hint of alloy in this photo- suggestive of at least partial alloy hull:
Tamiya Centurion
Tamiya Centurion
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