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Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:52 pm
by Tiggr
HERMAN BIX wrote:Get anew cable and 8 pin plug from HAYA U.K.
She'll work then
If it was that simple Mr B I'd do it.
The KT only has 5 cables from the board to the turret.
The T1 has 6.....

Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:07 pm
by Tiggr
Okay - order placed.
See how I go when it arrives......

Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:23 pm
by c.rainford73
From the insides of my originally equipped Tiger I with the t90 board we all know and love I have attached some photos for reference.

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With The upper set of two pin connectors the center pair goes to the turret rotation assembly

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The upper and lower pairs go to the gun elevation and bb assembly

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Note in this picture the wires direction to the gun assembly. Also note the black and red wire coming off the back of the airsoft unit directly to the rx18

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It's plugged into cn3 on the rx18

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Hope this helps Image

Carl

Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:29 pm
by HERMAN BIX
Cheers lads.
All info is a step to success.
I have a bit going on in life just now, got to drop out for a wee while, but will be back & hopefully with a Tank love story fit for Meg Ryan to put out in !!

Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:56 pm
by SteelBird
Carl,
If you know the function of each cable of the 8-pin connect, pls let me know

Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:06 pm
by Tiggr
Thanks for the photos Carl
I will use them as a point of reference when the mini board arrives.

I will contemplate where the sixth cable goes to and from in the meantime. It must be to the main gun cos that's the only thing that doesn't work.

Easy on the love story Mr B !
For me it's a compulsive obsession :D

Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:01 pm
by Tiggr
c.rainford73 wrote:From the insides of my originally equipped Tiger I with the t90 board we all know and love I have attached some photos for reference.

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With The upper set of two pin connectors the center pair goes to the turret rotation assembly

Image

The upper and lower pairs go to the gun elevation and bb assembly

Image

Note in this picture the wires direction to the gun assembly. Also note the black and red wire coming off the back of the airsoft unit directly to the rx18

Image

It's plugged into cn3 on the rx18

Image

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Hope this helps Image

Carl


Right.
These pictures are the key to this install.
I've got the upper hull plug unit - slow and steady will do it.
I've got the board in my KT, just need to figure out
1. gun elevation
2. main gun firing
@)

Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:02 pm
by HERMAN BIX
I can get rotation and track movement but no elevation or fire control.
Plus the smoker runs on its own if I plug it in

Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:21 pm
by wibblywobbly
Edit - Ignore all of this waffle for now, I will have a bog standard T90 to look at in a couple of days, which should enable me to see what is what.

I have been revisiting this little adventure. If anyone has figured out the wiring since Hermans post please jump in.

First of all there are differences as we know between the old 2.4ghz and the T90 version, which is in all of the new tanks apparently.

The clue is on the case.

The 8 pin on the old one is marked Turn, Lift, Shoot, Lamp.
The 8 pin on the new one is marked Lift, Turn, Shoot, Lamp.

The new hull mounted multi plug socket is different too. If you look on the back, the circuit trace for pins 5 & 6 are merged. This means a shared circuit.

On the old one it was:

1. Rotate +
2 Rotate -
3. Airsoft -
4. Elevation -
5. Airsoft and Elevation shared +
6. Machine Gun -
7. Lights -
8, Machine Gun and Lights +

On the new one it is:

1. Elevation +
2. Elevation -
3. Rotate +
4. Rotate -
5. Airsoft ??
6. Machine Gun - ??
7. Lights - ??
8. Machine Gun and Lights + ??

The airsoft needs the 5 pin plug in CN3. It is pins 4 & 5 (on the right) that complete the circuit for the airsoft, gun sound, and track recoil.

If you remove the airsoft and still want the gun sound, then twist pins 4 & 5 together.

I am trying to figure what merging the pcb trace on the back of the hull pcb achieves.
I am also trying to figure out whether pin 5 is airsoft + or -, and which pin supplies the opposing + or -. I am guessing it is the elevation as with the old one, or is it something to do with the merged trace on 5 & 6.

Actually just had a thought...when I did the Arduino project I was getting an airsoft pulse on 2 & 5, so that must be - on pin 2 (shared with the elevation), and + on pin 5.

If I can figure it all out I'll post a wiring diagram. I wish I had the foresight to run a multimeter over it before I pulled it out of the T90!! :silent:

If anyone can tell me whether the left stick moves the barrel with up for up and down for down, that would be appreciated, or is it the same as the old one??

Re: T90 board into Tiger 1 question

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:04 am
by c.rainford73
The left stick controls the gun elevation Mr Wibbly