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Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:16 pm
by HERMAN BIX
All I have on that is perhaps with the early British experience in the desert with the higher speeds and the dust storm this created, that it was for added visibility from the travelling vehicle, and to try to mitigate the tell tale cloud.
This perhaps extended to the later marks.
Its indicative of almost every 'in action' picture Ive seen with a Sherman that they never seem to have partial skirt/guards fitted from damage or loss, (like a venerable panther or KT,) they are either all intact, or all gone.

Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:19 pm
by HERMAN BIX
By early experience I meant with the light cruiser- valentine - vickers types well enshrined with guards/skirts before the Sherman made the scene.

Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:19 am
by ALPHA
fynsdad wrote:Close but no cigar....you really need to remove at least one if not both of these bolts :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
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..seriously though...beautiful work bud ;)
OOPS 8O ... Did a quick prime and correction there fynsdad.... seems like my poor eyesight and short term memory got the best of me :haha:
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drilled a hole.... just not where you indicated Image......ImageImageImage

ALPHA

Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:39 am
by ALPHA
HERMAN BIX wrote:All I have on that is perhaps with the early British experience in the desert with the higher speeds and the dust storm this created, that it was for added visibility from the travelling vehicle, and to try to mitigate the tell tale cloud.
This perhaps extended to the later marks.
Its indicative of almost every 'in action' picture Ive seen with a Sherman that they never seem to have partial skirt/guards fitted from damage or loss, (like a venerable panther or KT,) they are either all intact, or all gone.
I would say that is exactly correct Herman.. the skirts were probably left on the Shermans to keep of the dust and sand that would fly up in the desert ... and probably the reason why American and other allied forces in the European front took them off... as they were confronted with forestry and shall I say a more varied exposure to weather...and because of the thinner "legs"... caused mechanical problems should the thin shields be dented in any way... they are by far different from the German Skirts on their Panzers JagdPanzers King Tiger...where the armor was thicker... I would estimate up to three or four times thicker.. as the Germans had shall I say ... Home Field advantages....they would dent ...sure... but were thick enough or resilient enough to not interfere with the running of the drives ..and if they were... they were promptly removed

ALPHA

Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:40 am
by ALPHA
fynsdad wrote:
Its indicative of almost every 'in action' picture Ive seen with a Sherman that they never seem to have partial skirt/guards fitted from damage or loss, (like a venerable panther or KT,) they are either all intact, or all gone.
The beauty of Shermans is you can never say never ;)
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:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: You sure can't lol

ALPHA

Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:43 am
by ALPHA
Skirts...............................
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the more I look at them... the more I'm liking them :D

ALPHA

Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:17 am
by HERMAN BIX
fynsdad wrote:
Its indicative of almost every 'in action' picture Ive seen with a Sherman that they never seem to have partial skirt/guards fitted from damage or loss, (like a venerable panther or KT,) they are either all intact, or all gone.
The beauty of Shermans is you can never say never ;)
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Well, now I have..............it sure does look clinically removed rather than "can-openered"............... :thumbup:

Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:02 pm
by ALPHA
Sorry guys...haven't had the time to sort out the electricals in the turret or the upper hull yet... so nothing really to report :thumbdown:

ALPHA

Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:39 am
by PainlessWolf
Alpha,
I am ready with my limited knowledge and skillset to lend a hand with the electricals. Keep that Fire Extinguisher handy!
Warm regards,,
Painless

Re: Another SAUNDERS SHERMAN

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:52 am
by cannedheat
if I may be so bold as to say ? that is a nice job old chap ,I like the way you have done every thing, its going to be a cracker as frank says [carson ] my skills don't reach that far ,I have not the patience to go that far with detail .nice ....wot wot