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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:16 pm
by Conor
lmcq11 wrote: Yes, it's the Trophy counter-measure. But its a complicated and costly system to install and operate, only IDF and US M1A2C got it. But that will probably work until some AT missile producer designs a decoy projector as part of the missile warhead. The game of counter/counter measures will never end.
AFAIK the germans have some of their leopards equipped as well, and the T14 Armata has some sort of APS as well, so it is slowly starting to spread further.

But in general, obviously, you are right. Different developments lead to different doctrines/methods/counter-developments etc.

Best example here would be the AMX 30 and the Leopard 1 - Built on the assumption that HEAT warheads would be able to penetrate any sort of steel armour with impunity, thus mobility was paramount, to be able to engage the enemy first before he engaged oneself. Then composite armour came along and changed everything up.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:10 pm
by lmcq11
One good website that provides summaries and daily updates on tanks and other weapons seen in Ukraine is "The War Zone" at https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone.

Interesting view of the T-80UM2 with Drozd active protection system, similar to the Israeli Trophy.
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Russian T-72 based BMPT-2 Terminators spotted going to Ukraine by train. I cannot determine if the white spots on the sides are sandbags attached to the hull, or some new urban fighting camo scheme.
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Latest Russian APCs in action in Ukraine, garbage trucks.
Garbage truck APC
Garbage truck APC
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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:17 pm
by Xiaoshan_Sailor
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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:29 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
Gosh, Zorro gets everywhere 8O

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:25 am
by Jimster
:haha: Now THAT’S funny!

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:35 am
by Xiaoshan_Sailor
Jimster wrote::haha: Now THAT’S funny!
One of my sons is a former US Marine & wondered where are they going to find the cloth ammo belts for that Maxim? :haha:

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:06 am
by tankme
Xiaoshan_Sailor wrote:
Jimster wrote::haha: Now THAT’S funny!
One of my sons is a former US Marine & wondered where are they going to find the cloth ammo belts for that Maxim? :haha:
I saw that water jacket and was like, really? Are they really using that old machine gun?

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:11 am
by Kaczor
Nightmare.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:18 am
by jee
Xiaoshan_Sailor wrote:
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well, it is likely in Ukraine, according to the licenseplate of the blue car, but I doubt the Russian army is using that. So actually it should be a local who supports the Russians?

And probably some babuschka will be able to make those cloth ammo belts :D

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:25 am
by Son of a gun-ner
Can't they use their lady's stockings, like they used to for broken fan belts? Or was that just an excuse to get them off :think: