Here’s a quick video I made tonight to show you how my Heng Long dual current gearboxes act. Keep in mind I’m not the best driver but they do pretty well for a heavy tank.
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Jimster she looks sooo buttery smooth and oh so quiet. Always love to see your Tiger.
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Thank you kind sir. Those coffee grinder gearboxes really diminish the sound quality.
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Oh that is exemplary slow going! I highly approve! 
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yes, I understand.
Unfortunately. taigen does not have the ability to fine-tune the torsion bars. as soon as the new gearbox arrives. I'll take it apart again and return it to its normal position.
Well, I do have several Taigen tanks with torsionbars.
It is possible to adjust them!
Among several others, I have 2 Taigen Panthers and a Taigen Jagdpanther.
Out of the box, the Panther sprocketwheels are way too low, compared to the real ones.
Because of the metal lower hull, it is difficult to raise the sprocketwheels, but with a vice and some pliers, it is very easy to bend the torsionbar suspension!
By doing this, you lower the roadwheels, so that it looks like the sprocketwheels are higher.
I put some paper tape on the vice and marked a 45 degree angle on it, torsionbar into the vice and bend it till the end is level with the 45 degree mark and done.
To get the very first torsion bars out, you unscrew the gearboxes and flip them over towards the front, so no need to take the gearboxes out completely.
Rob.
Unfortunately. taigen does not have the ability to fine-tune the torsion bars. as soon as the new gearbox arrives. I'll take it apart again and return it to its normal position.
Well, I do have several Taigen tanks with torsionbars.
It is possible to adjust them!
Among several others, I have 2 Taigen Panthers and a Taigen Jagdpanther.
Out of the box, the Panther sprocketwheels are way too low, compared to the real ones.
Because of the metal lower hull, it is difficult to raise the sprocketwheels, but with a vice and some pliers, it is very easy to bend the torsionbar suspension!
By doing this, you lower the roadwheels, so that it looks like the sprocketwheels are higher.
I put some paper tape on the vice and marked a 45 degree angle on it, torsionbar into the vice and bend it till the end is level with the 45 degree mark and done.
To get the very first torsion bars out, you unscrew the gearboxes and flip them over towards the front, so no need to take the gearboxes out completely.
Rob.
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Denis wrote:
just WOW.
I like this tiger a lot. where did you get boxes? and what elements need to be changed in stock hl tiger for this one?
As far as I understand, Tiger 100 was not one tiger with such boxes?
Well Dennis, Lots of changes need to be done to get a bit close to the Initial Production ones!
Both turret boxes are available at Ludwigs Hobbysite in Germany. They are made out of poly and you must assemble them yourself of course. The hinges I used, are very small ones which I also cut to get them slightly smaller, and I got them from Asiatam Modellbau, also in Germany.
First of all, these very first ones did have a weldseam in the middle of the upper hull, running from front to rear (or backwards haha).
I did cut a groove in the upper hull, glued a very small strip of lead you can solder with into the groove and cut weld lookalikes in it with a knive.
The wooden block for the jack must be removed from the upper hull front to the rear heck. The Feiffel Filter system must get off, a second pistol port in the right side of the turret, welds on both hull sides at the front and rear, and lots and lots more to do.
Better check out youtube, there is a video of a model in which everything is explained.
If you checked out Jimsters thread, you know what to do too.
Good luck!
Rob.
just WOW.
I like this tiger a lot. where did you get boxes? and what elements need to be changed in stock hl tiger for this one?
As far as I understand, Tiger 100 was not one tiger with such boxes?
Well Dennis, Lots of changes need to be done to get a bit close to the Initial Production ones!
Both turret boxes are available at Ludwigs Hobbysite in Germany. They are made out of poly and you must assemble them yourself of course. The hinges I used, are very small ones which I also cut to get them slightly smaller, and I got them from Asiatam Modellbau, also in Germany.
First of all, these very first ones did have a weldseam in the middle of the upper hull, running from front to rear (or backwards haha).
I did cut a groove in the upper hull, glued a very small strip of lead you can solder with into the groove and cut weld lookalikes in it with a knive.
The wooden block for the jack must be removed from the upper hull front to the rear heck. The Feiffel Filter system must get off, a second pistol port in the right side of the turret, welds on both hull sides at the front and rear, and lots and lots more to do.
Better check out youtube, there is a video of a model in which everything is explained.
If you checked out Jimsters thread, you know what to do too.
Good luck!
Rob.
Last edited by Rob59 on Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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One more detail....these very early ones did have a right and a left side track, so a different one for the left and another one for the right, not interchangeable!
This cannot be achieved in modelling (maybe if you 3D print 'm, I don't know if that is possible and if you want to go that deep into scaleness?) so I tried to pretend it on my model by cutting the spare track links on the bow and seperated them. Made 2 sets with some space between both sets to pretend them being different ones....
This cannot be achieved in modelling (maybe if you 3D print 'm, I don't know if that is possible and if you want to go that deep into scaleness?) so I tried to pretend it on my model by cutting the spare track links on the bow and seperated them. Made 2 sets with some space between both sets to pretend them being different ones....
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Rob59 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:27 am yes, I understand.
Unfortunately. taigen does not have the ability to fine-tune the torsion bars. as soon as the new gearbox arrives. I'll take it apart again and return it to its normal position.
Well, I do have several Taigen tanks with torsionbars.
It is possible to adjust them!
Among several others, I have 2 Taigen Panthers and a Taigen Jagdpanther.
Out of the box, the Panther sprocketwheels are way too low, compared to the real ones.
Because of the metal lower hull, it is difficult to raise the sprocketwheels, but with a vice and some pliers, it is very easy to bend the torsionbar suspension!
By doing this, you lower the roadwheels, so that it looks like the sprocketwheels are higher.
I put some paper tape on the vice and marked a 45 degree angle on it, torsionbar into the vice and bend it till the end is level with the 45 degree mark and done.
To get the very first torsion bars out, you unscrew the gearboxes and flip them over towards the front, so no need to take the gearboxes out completely.
Rob.
It looks like I need a schematic or photo, I don't understand ( yes. the star is too low - I don't like it. by the way, how to lower the tensioner wheel? I've seen photos of real tanks with this position. but on models I don't understand how to achieve this.
By the way, a question. dual current will fit in taigen lower hull without problems?
I asked the seller to fit this gearbox to the mato lower hull, and he said that these gearboxes do not fit the mother because they do not match the dimensions. and in general, is it worth to take the mato lower hull? ))
Denis
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Tensioner wheel?
You mean the idler wheel?
Don‘t know, mostly it moves up/down when you adjust the tracks.
To loosen the tracks the idler goes up, to tighten the tracks they go down.
Maybe if you tighten the tracks and your idlers ain‘t low enough for you, you might add an extra tracklink??
But keep in mind, this might affect the driving outdoors. Tracks too loose might get thrown off, too tight they may snap or bend some axels?
You mean the idler wheel?
Don‘t know, mostly it moves up/down when you adjust the tracks.
To loosen the tracks the idler goes up, to tighten the tracks they go down.
Maybe if you tighten the tracks and your idlers ain‘t low enough for you, you might add an extra tracklink??
But keep in mind, this might affect the driving outdoors. Tracks too loose might get thrown off, too tight they may snap or bend some axels?
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Thank you, Rob!Rob59 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:58 am Tensioner wheel?
You mean the idler wheel?
Don‘t know, mostly it moves up/down when you adjust the tracks.
To loosen the tracks the idler goes up, to tighten the tracks they go down.
Maybe if you tighten the tracks and your idlers ain‘t low enough for you, you might add an extra tracklink??
But keep in mind, this might affect the driving outdoors. Tracks too loose might get thrown off, too tight they may snap or bend some axels?
that's exactly the kind of thing, Like welds, that makes me nervous)
Also, I'm thinking now that I have to cut the box off the turret, and there will be a huge silumin hole. how to fix it ?)))
I didn't know about the different caterpillars at all
you can make anything, it's just a question of price. And models...
It's a very nice ride. What remote do you use?
Denis
