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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:09 am
by Aussie
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New model cope cage.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:25 pm
by EAO
Aussie,

God that's good! I nearly wet myself laughing and woke the dogs up in the process! :haha: :clap: :thumbup:

Cheers,
Eric.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:15 pm
by Herr Dr. Professor
Oh, Aussie! That is brilliant. Speaking of brilliant... Camouflage your T72 with about 5000 lbs. of dirt and grasses; then paint a big white Z on it. What is z sense of that?

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:18 pm
by Xiaoshan_Sailor
Saw this photo of an eastbound train in Poland heading towards the Ukrainian border.
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Meanwhile in Odessa..
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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:47 am
by Son of a gun-ner
Hmmm :think: :D
I guess the top one should be MBT.

Please click to open :thumbup:

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:59 am
by Aussie
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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:29 am
by AlwynTurner
I believe the price of scrap metal is also pretty good at the moment :D :haha:

Alwyn :thumbup: :wave:

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:58 pm
by lmcq11
This "Javelin cage" model on a T-72B3 is quite high, allowing for more crew comfort, but extremely weak.
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Javelin cage on T-72B3
Obviously an attempt by the Russian crew to detonate one of the Javelin's tandem warhead, keeping the ERA blocks to protect against the main charge. However, we can see there are not many ERA on top of the T-72B3. The whole tank would need to be covered.
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It will be interesting to see what will be the future of tanks. It seems to me that the future in wars belongs to aerial drones and cheap missiles. Russia did not send any of their tank drones to Ukraine so far. Their Uran-9 combat drone having performed poorly in Syria, but it has potential. We can see the writing on the wall for the MBT during a war between two well equipped and trained armies. Big tanks are just too vulnerable.

Really anyone, including civilians, provided with latest generation hand held AT missiles and a short training video can destroy a tank column in a few minutes.
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Uran-9 combat drone
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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:36 pm
by Conor
lmcq11 wrote:We can see the writing on the wall for the MBT during a war between two well equipped and trained armies. Big tanks are just too vulnerable.

Really anyone, including civilians, provided with latest generation hand held AT missiles and a short training video can destroy a tank column in a few minutes.

Since I'm building a Merkava at the moment, I've done a lot of research into these tanks, and the israelis have adressed this very effectively by using active countermeasures to actually pop the warhead before it reaches the tank. Apparently this is so successful that they are considering not replacing the Merkava 4, instead subsidising it with a fairly thin-skinned, APS-equipped machine for the type of conflict they predominantly encounter nowadays.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:47 pm
by lmcq11
Conor wrote:Since I'm building a Merkava at the moment, I've done a lot of research into these tanks, and the israelis have adressed this very effectively by using active countermeasures to actually pop the warhead before it reaches the tank. Apparently this is so successful that they are considering not replacing the Merkava 4, instead subsidising it with a fairly thin-skinned, APS-equipped machine for the type of conflict they predominantly encounter nowadays.
Yes, it's the Trophy counter-measure. But its a complicated and costly system to install and operate, only IDF and US M1A2C got it. But that will probably work until some AT missile producer designs a decoy projector as part of the missile warhead. The game of counter/counter measures will never end.