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Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:11 pm
by PainlessWolf
Good morning,
Yes, if the Devil ever showed up and wanted to engage in an RC Model Building contest, We would throw up Louis and \ or Barry and sleep soundly at night knowing the fix was in. ;o)
regards,
Painless

Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:46 pm
by lmcq11
Well, thank you everyone for your kind words of encouragements. This is a fun build, very similar to a Ludwig kit.

Here is the gun mantlet and canvas cover.

Its an issue finding good reference of the M48A3 mantlet with canvas cover in good condition. Most surviving canvas on museum tanks are ripped or removed, and few war time pictures provide good close up of it. Even the latest 1/35 Dragon M48A3 kit does not have it at all.
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
Its actually the Legend 1/35 resin update for the Dragon kit that provides the best detail for analysis. The canvas has 2 inner rings, that needs to be reproduced for an accurate model. The inner ring at the back is larger than the front one. It is almost next to impossible to make this in real canvas perfectly from scratch. I mean one that would look good and still allow for elevation.
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The 21st Century model shows an attempt to represent the canvas cover and attachment points on the hull, but its partial and not well detailed. The canvas on the mantlet ring is too think, everything else seems cramped.
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
So, my idea was to rebuild the canvas cover and rings in plasticard. The built-in second ring was eliminated, the first ring is reduced, and a new second ring made of think plasticard is glued on top.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The canvas on the mantlet is reduced in thickness and the third (small) ring is made of plasticard and glued to the mantlet.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The gun is reinstalled and elevation is tested. It needs a lot of fine tuning.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The extremity of the canvas cover is given the thick band seen in pictures and all attachments are redone in brass with M0.6 brass bolts.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
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Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:58 pm
by lmcq11
This is the Loader's hatch

As seen in reference pictures. It has fine details.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The 21st century model hatch is clude. It is accurate in size but everything needs to be redone.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
Here comes the Dremel.
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The new loader's hatch. The springs were purchased at Knupfer, rest is scratch using reference picture above. This is really small.
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The hatch is made to open correctly, the little springs are actually working. A simplistic inner ring for the turret is made in thin plasticard. Once I have determined how the figure will fit in it, I might redo the ring for better accuracy.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
A basic handle is repro in brass.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
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Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:10 pm
by lmcq11
This is the ventilation cover and the Xenon searchlight storage rack.

Rear view of the ventilation cover. The Xenon rack is missing one of its attachment point.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
I never saw a picture with the Xenon searchlight mounted on its storage rack on the back of the turret. It is no surprise that tank crews would reuse it for spare road wheel storage instead.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The 21st Century model has a simplistic ventilation cover, and no storage rack.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
I removed the cover, and made a new turret platform horizontal.
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The ventilation cover was reworked, reduced by 2 mm in diameter, corners made round with shape inspired from reference picture and Dragon kit. It sits on a new base made of plasticard. The 3 attachment points are a bit too big. I will try to find smaller ones.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The model as it stands today. Next step are the handles and rear stowage basket.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
Regards, Louis

Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:07 pm
by lmcq11
Hi,

Here are the hand rails and turret stowage basket.

The 21st Century oversized turret hand rails are surely the most annoying items on this model.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
Easily replaceable with 1mm brass rods with 5 attachment points. The 3 middle attachments are first installed and given a groove into which the horizontal rod will sit on. Then the 1mm rod will run from attachment 1 to 5 in a solid integration. No need for soldering, superglue is fine.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
It takes about 1 hour of work to get new hand rails that look a bit better.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The rear turret basket is another story. This is complicated to reproduce. This M48A3 Mod B has a added bracket with 4 bolt holes allowing the crew to install road wheels or other heavy equipment at the back of the basket.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The 21st Century model has an oversized basket, extending too much towards the back, and the brackets are too heavy.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The turret basket was earlier removed. There is not much that can be done with it. I decided to reuse the side brackets, after making them shorter and narrower.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
Rebuilding in progress in various steps. Choice of material is important. I choose plastic braskets with 1.5mm brass rods, superglued in place, faster. This is more solid than any soldering i could do in a all brass model. The rods are sanded with a nail file so that the superglue has a better grip on them.
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The mesh used is a perfect match for the M48A3 basket. It was purchased on eBay under the name "ALUMINUM Micro Screen Woven Expanded Metal 1/16" Mesh" for a few dollars for a whole sheet. It is simply cut with scissors.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
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Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:15 pm
by lmcq11
After 6 hours of work, the turret stowage basket is finished. I might do some fine tuning later if I notice something that can be improved.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
I noticed the rods are coming out on the side brackets on the real tank, so I did the same here, for now. An M48 is no Ferrari.
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
The model as it stands today.
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
Regards, Louis

Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:33 am
by jhamm
Excellent workmanship! :thumbup:

Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:57 pm
by Von Mooflesaaa
Ye God's man, that is inspirational scratch building. Very impressed.

Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:58 pm
by HERMAN BIX
Sublime execution of a difficult subject machine. Let me guess, you have a crew and riders for it that’s straight out of Apocalypse Now ? !!!!!

Re: M-48A3 Mod B Patton - US Army Vietnam - Build

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:44 am
by lmcq11
Thank you !
HERMAN BIX wrote:Let me guess, you have a crew and riders for it that’s straight out of Apocalypse Now ? !!
The plan is for 3 tank crews and up to 10 infantry riders. Each figure will have a unique pose. Reworking the available multi-pose 1/18 figures, switching parts, positioning and hiding the joints offer lot of possibilities for tank riders, in similar fashion as I did for the ARVN M-41 build. It's 1/18 but it is actually larger than many 1/16 tanks and will fit well in the collection. The Chris Ludwig basic kit is an M-48A2 so this totally rebuilt M-48A3 will be a rare sight.
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1/18 RC M-48A3 Patton build
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Regards, Louis