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Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:05 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
Ecam wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:55 pm You explained it better than I could! Well done.
Thank you :)
I once made this contraption many many years ago, so I sort of understand a bit ;)

Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:11 pm
by Ecam
That definitely wouldn't fit under the turret. Cool contraption, but I have no idea its use.

Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:20 pm
by Meter rat
Now the pictures and SoG explanation make sense. Thank you.

Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:25 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
Ecam wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:11 pm That definitely wouldn't fit under the turret. Cool contraption, but I have no idea its use.
That makes two of us lol. It was an apprentice test piece. Apparently it was part of a larger production type machine, or was a machine part that never went into production.
One of the tests was to hand scrape the top piece flat, like a surface plate/table.
And now I'm going to take it to the local recycle centre with some other pointless hoarded junk lol.
Sorry, I'll leave you to it :{

Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:58 pm
by Ecam
Naw, strip it down and save some useful pieces. That's a thick chunk of alum on top!

Ok, I read the HL turret bin was a bit off (understatement). I am trying to use the parts that came with the tank do a reasonable looking model. It's not that I'm cheap (actually I am) but I like to work with what is on hand. It took a bit of work to arrive at this. Scratching may have been easier.

New wings, a section job and new "sheet metal".

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I am still looking for more pictures, I feel it might need a chop job as well (too tall) and possibly too long as well.

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Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:34 pm
by Ecam
There is added weight in the breach so the barrel naturally is headed skyward. A friction plate is added because in this low profile set up, the plunger runs directly against it. And a light ball point pen spring to keep the bounce down.

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Minimum and maximum travel at this point.

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Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:37 am
by Ecam
Shortened the bin and changed the rear arc. Also the wall is near vertical now. Per the World War Photo pic:

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Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:42 am
by Herr Dr. Professor
"And now I'm going to take it to the local recycle centre with some other pointless hoarded junk." Wait SoG: are you serious? Maybe it's kid's stuff to you, but I would be proud to have accomplished that! I am guessing that is does darned near nothing, kind of a "BS grinder." Still, its an heirloom, at least to those like me who have no hairs or heirs.

Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:50 am
by Herr Dr. Professor
Eric, if I have this right in my noddle, you have created a metal lifter that rides on top of the circular cam-on-a-gear thingie, but you located the lifter rod at 180 degrees to the original riding position of the flange thingie that comes off the standard RTR barrel gizmo. The white plastic half-circles create a sturdy sleeve to guide the metal lifter rod. That way, you can mount the gun lift mechanism under the turret and farther forward. the weight on the gun breech works against the pen spring, both forcing the breech to ride on the lifter and the lifter to ride on the cam without bouncing or just staying up off the cam altogether.
Setting my technical terms aside, did I get it?
If so, then, I, too wonder how are you going to fit that now low-hanging mechanism into the PzKfw. IV hull.

Re: Panzer IV with Schürzen

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:09 am
by jarndice
I still think that Taigens answer is neater and as effective as displayed with their latest PZ4 Turret which is as accurate if not more so than Tamiyas.