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Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:17 am
by 43rdRecceReg
Here I'm firing sinister (Left-handed..in the unlikely event you didn't know!) with a German P38, 9mm- the standard sidearm issued to german tank crews in WW2. You can see the muzzle flash, and the round ejecting, just below the warning sign for careless walkers

What you can't see is the '9' I scored at 15 m (50ft) left-handed, and the subsequent seven 'nines' in row I managed; also left-handed.That's equivalent to eight (likely) fatal head shots. Even a well placed .22 will kill at this distance. Luckily, I only have to shoot at inanimate objects. Apparently, a majority of soldiers find it hard to shoot at human ones, even when their own lives are at risk. I could be one of those; so could you... Who knows? Data for the inability of soldiers to kill comes from studies of WW1, WW2 and Vietnam..incidentally. There's also a Walther PPK in front of me, by the way: Nice but can be naughty too....
Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:23 pm
by ALPHA
43rdRecceReg wrote:Here I'm firing sinister (Left-handed..in the unlikely event you didn't know!) with a German P38, 9mm- the standard sidearm issued to german tank crews in WW2. You can see the muzzle flash, and the round ejecting, just below the warning sign for careless walkers

What you can't see is the '9' I scored at 15 m (50ft) left-handed, and the subsequent seven 'nines' in row I managed; also left-handed.That's equivalent to eight (likely) fatal head shots. Even a well placed .22 will kill at this distance. Luckily, I only have to shoot at inanimate objects. Apparently, a majority of soldiers find it hard to shoot at human ones, even when their own lives are at risk. I could be one of those; so could you... Who knows? Data for the inability of soldiers to kill comes from studies of WW1, WW2 and Vietnam..incidentally. There's also a Walther PPK in front of me, by the way: Nice but can be naughty too....
P38...like that gun...the question that now comes to lay.................Can you stop a jeep with it

A double tap from a 45 through the radiator or hood...will stop it dead
ALPHA
Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:39 pm
by jackalope
Jeep stopping power, what all guns need to be gauge by.

I just wonder......how many people actually get attacked by Jeeps every year to need to have Jeep stopping power?
Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:05 pm
by ALPHA
jackalope wrote:Jeep stopping power, what all guns need to be gauge by.

I just wonder......how many people actually get attacked by Jeeps every year to need to have Jeep stopping power?
Just take my word for it Jack

....there have been times....resorting to that was pretty convenient when orders were not to harm the driver/occupant
ALPHA
Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:52 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
Hmmm, well, they don't supply jeeps down at the range; but maybe I could take a 1/16 scale RC Jeep along just for a furtive rad-blasting session! Thinking of stopping power, also brings to mind the futility of Tom Hanks' character trying to stop a Tiger tank with a 'plinking' .45
in 'Saving Private Ryan' (or was it the porno version: 'Shaving Ryan's privates..!).Enough already..
Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:25 pm
by ALPHA
43rdRecceReg wrote:Hmmm, well, they don't supply jeeps down at the range; but maybe I could take a 1/16 scale RC Jeep along just for a furtive rad-blasting session!
LOL...Kind of defeats the purpose if you don't shoot the 1/1 version lol...If you shoot a toy Jeep...you would have to properly scale down to perhaps a sling shot with 177 bbs
Thinking of stopping power, also brings to mind the futility of Tom Hanks' character trying to stop a Tiger tank with a 'plinking' .45
in 'Saving Private Ryan' (or was it the porno version: 'Shaving Ryan's privates..!).Enough already..
To be Honest... I hated that show....that tiny bridge they made a stand for wasn't all that long to be "strategic"..I would have booby trapped it an blew it up...if heat came down from the brass...I would just say...Ah...Nuts!!!! or OOPs!! which ever suit the gripe the best

....after all they could have pushed debri in to cross it as it wasn't that deep either
And when Tom Hanks was shooting at that tank...I tell ya...I was waiting for the gunner to just shred the guy...now THAT would have been realistic
Now don't get me going on the Coward who just stood there and let his buddy get gutted
ALPHA
Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:22 am
by 43rdRecceReg
Hmm., well not to be too picky, not all vehicles have the radiator at the front of the car. The venerable old mini has it at the side, for example. Thus, you'd have to shoot it through the wing..or does the '45 also shred the engine block?
Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:33 am
by 43rdRecceReg
Yep, the timorous translator, with the ammo belt; even the Victorious Stormtrooper felt it beneath him to despatch him to the Library in the sky. Killed with contempt; worse in some ways than cold steel....for. But one feature of 'Private Ryan" I appreciated was a departure from stock bullet 'sounds and ricochets, that had been used since the time of the 'Lone Ranger' (when six-shooters were apparently sixty-shooters). 'Wells Fargo', and 'Cheyenne'. At least the 'zips' and rips' carried more authenticity, even if the characters didn't
Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:45 am
by 43rdRecceReg
'Miniature Guns that Actually Shoot...
Vickers Tactical '
Check this guy, (and the title) out on Youtube. Cut and paste link failed for some glitchy reason. He has miniature versions of the Tommy gun, AK47 etc., and they all fire live mini-ammo! Thus downscaling to rad-shooting a 1/16th scale Jeep, would actually be best served with one of these..

Re: Tanker Handguns 2..USA and Russian
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:24 am
by HERMAN BIX
Not a handgun , but I also owned a PPsh41 in .22LR !
That thing was a hoot to shoot and was a lot cheaper than firing the actual 2 other PPsh's I had with the Tokarev ammo.
In NZ, rabbits & possums were no match for a drum fed .22 PPsh 41 (with laser pointer

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