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OK your right I'm wrong lets leave it at that.

edpanzer wrote:OK your right I'm wrong lets leave it at that.

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ALPHA

Alpha, so I'm to understand that you can apply paint with a brush just the same as with an airbrush? You can also duplicate all the weathering an airbrush can do with a paint brush? I don't know man that seems awfully difficult to believe. If someone could duplicate what an airbrush could do with just a paint brush then why would anyone bother with the added cost of an airbrush?

But I'd love to see anyone be able to duplicate the weathering and painting that can be done with an airbrush.

You and I are friends but on this one I'm forced to throw a BS flag on the play. There is no way to make colors fade together like an airbrush can with a paint brush.

jackalope wrote:Alpha, so I'm to understand that you can apply paint with a brush just the same as with an airbrush? You can also duplicate all the weathering an airbrush can do with a paint brush? I don't know man that seems awfully difficult to believe. If someone could duplicate what an airbrush could do with just a paint brush then why would anyone bother with the added cost of an airbrush?

But I'd love to see anyone be able to duplicate the weathering and painting that can be done with an airbrush.

You and I are friends but on this one I'm forced to throw a BS flag on the play. There is no way to make colors fade together like an airbrush can with a paint brush.

That's not what I said Jack...someone else elaborated... but yes I can do blends fades...and straight edges with a brush and I can do it with an airbrush as well

When you pinline ...what do you use Jack? a brush or an airbrush... you can do it with both... one is a tad faster...the other a lot finer...it's the choice of the modeller in this case...and what makes that modeller happy

In my case...I can do both...it gives me options depending on my mood

ALPHA

PS. I am not here to sway anyone into belief...it's all up to whomever reads...all I'm saying is it can be done..it's up to whomever to choose...to learn needed Techniques or not to... Simple as that

Nope. You can't duplicate the way an airbrush is able to fade colors together. You can dry brush it and get it close but the effect that you can get with an airbrush can't be copied with a brush. Even the BEST paint or painter will leave brush strokes it's just the way it is because of how a brush is made and how it applies the paint. Sorry man but even pro painters will tell you the same thing.

As for pin stripes and thin lines it depends on what I want to do. But either way works however if I want sharp lines either way needs to be masked off.

Not hating on you bud but it's like you're trying to convince us all that you can fly a VW Beetle just as well as a jet fighter.

jackalope wrote:Nope. You can't duplicate the way an airbrush is able to fade colors together. You can dry brush it and get it close but the effect that you can get with an airbrush can't be copied with a brush. Even the BEST paint or painter will leave brush strokes it's just the way it is because of how a brush is made and how it applies the paint. Sorry man but even pro painters will tell you the same thing.

As for pin stripes and thin lines it depends on what I want to do. But either way works however if I want sharp lines either way needs to be masked off.

Not hating on you bud but it's like you're trying to convince us all that you can fly a VW Beetle just as well as a jet fighter.

Well Jack...all I can say more is...Airbrushing and Brushing are two different animals...each have their own attributes ...each has their own distinctive appearance...it would never be an exact replication...but it will be close....you know as well as I...the Airbrush leaves a much softer finish...I don't know if you remember that ceramic painting I restored...but that was done with a brush....it was a mistake for me to try to airbrush it...reason I went back and did it with a brush
With that said...I have also done Saya ...that has fades...all with brush...I would never do one with an airbrush

Anyway...this convo has gotten off track...the question was how to achieve a hard edge....I gave Silly putty for use with an airbrush...and Brush....Paint to use is optional ...some misunderstood me mentioning Tamiya and took it as a primary choice....that was never even implied...I just said I've done it

So basically it's up to you and whomever ...to the method.. type of paint...technique...I have options...those who say neh..don't...it's not on my conscience what they choose or how they choose to do it...DO WHAT'S COMFORTABLE FOR YOU after all ...it's your tank

ALPHA

PS. Think back to when you didn't have access to an airbrush...mine is decades ago when I did 1/35th scale military models...airbrushes were more expensive..limited to those who could afford it...I was a kid...it was a choice between saving for an airbrush or a model kit ....I always chose the model kit...that's where I learned the basics of painting...perfecting the technique as I aged...now if no one else ever did that...it's certainly not my fault...and I'm definitely not going to let anyone tell me what I can or can't do just because they can't...it's their shortcoming not mine...they chose their path...I chose mine ...
who's is better? ...I don't care ...Really I don't...they are them ...you are you...and I am me

Another note about painting hard lines with a brush....Ever watch a master pin striper? They never retrace a stroke...yet their creations are nothing short of magnificent...so if you ever get a chance ...watch ...observe ...learn...and maybe practice

Even another Example...especially for you Jack...watch AMERICAN RESTORATION...there is a guy that they contract to recreate original artwork/lettering on restored items...what does he use ...A BRUSH

ALPHA

ALPHA wrote:

edpanzer wrote:With the laquer Alpha if you brush it on you need many coats and at the end and after you've left it a few weeks to harden you still see brush marks so then you have to wet sand in with very fine paper then polish it that's how they achieved the flawless finish very labor intensive and expensive. Trust me i saw my father do this and he was a top craftsmen ( not boasting). Now with spraying he still wet sanded and polished but there was fewer coats and the drying time and labor hours were drastically reduced.

Back in the day of lacquer Ware...they didn't have sandpaper...the paint was acrylic (water based) Timing was important...the "Technique" employed "natural" methods of speed drying...I know...I do it .....but yes...the anglo way is to sand between coats..(painted show cars in my younger years)...totally impractical for this kind of application...but I've found a methodology that does work...have described it many times on this board...many don't pay attention much...it's their loss...but it's all there in black and white

Not Boasting...Just Saying


Carpe Diem ED

ALPHA

Lacquer paint is made from sap. Acrylic paint is entirely synthetic.

billpe wrote:
Lacquer paint is made from sap. Acrylic paint is entirely synthetic.

And the point is???????????????????

ALPHA

Neither are water based as you seemed to suggest.....