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Re: Pootin trying to put in
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:25 am
by billpe
dgsselkirk wrote:
As for Russia, do not underestimate them my friends.
No we shouldn't. I was in Kiev last week on business and I can tell you that people there are really happy that they've finally got rid of a Russian puppet as President and they can work on getting rid of corruption now but they're literally scared to the point of having bags prepared to run right now.
The irony is, apart from the very east of Ukraine, they've never been more solidified as a nation which is working against Putin. The more he plays the bad guy, the more they become anti-Russian.
But we have to remember these days the Russia isn't the Soviet Union. They don't have anything like the military they did and allot of what they do have is old. The problem that people in Kiev see is that he has nukes and natural gas. They need that gas - Ukraine gets very cold from October to March - and they're scared of the nukes. He could launch one and no one will retaliate. They'll scorn him and put up more sanctions, even China might put up sanctions, but ultimately he could conceivably get away with it. This makes people very very nervous.
Re: Pootin trying to put in
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:40 pm
by ALPHA
billpe wrote:dgsselkirk wrote:
As for Russia, do not underestimate them my friends.
No we shouldn't. I was in Kiev last week on business and I can tell you that people there are really happy that they've finally got rid of a Russian puppet as President and they can work on getting rid of corruption now but they're literally scared to the point of having bags prepared to run right now.
The irony is, apart from the very east of Ukraine, they've never been more solidified as a nation which is working against Putin. The more he plays the bad guy, the more they become anti-Russian.
But we have to remember these days the Russia isn't the Soviet Union. They don't have anything like the military they did and allot of what they do have is old. The problem that people in Kiev see is that he has nukes and natural gas. They need that gas - Ukraine gets very cold from October to March - and they're scared of the nukes. He could launch one and no one will retaliate. They'll scorn him and put up more sanctions, even China might put up sanctions, but ultimately he could conceivably get away with it. This makes people very very nervous.
Pootin is a Narcissist ....it's like he wants to rebuild the military.... and in the process of doing it... poke at other countries to make a name for himself....and I don't think China would appreciate it much if he launched a nuke anywhere....they are enjoying an economy boom...he won't get away with it that's for sure
ALPHA
Re: Pootin trying to put in
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:50 pm
by jarndice
ALPHA wrote:billpe wrote:dgsselkirk wrote:
As for Russia, do not underestimate them my friends.
No we shouldn't. I was in Kiev last week on business and I can tell you that people there are really happy that they've finally got rid of a Russian puppet as President and they can work on getting rid of corruption now but they're literally scared to the point of having bags prepared to run right now.
The irony is, apart from the very east of Ukraine, they've never been more solidified as a nation which is working against Putin. The more he plays the bad guy, the more they become anti-Russian.
2But we have to remember these days the Russia isn't the Soviet Union. They don't have anything like the military they did and allot of what they do have is old. The problem that people in Kiev see is that he has nukes and natural gas. They need that gas - Ukraine gets very cold from October to March - and they're scared of the nukes. He could launch one and no one will retaliate. They'll scorn him and put up more sanctions, even China might put up sanctions, but ultimately he could conceivably get away with it. This makes people very very nervous.
Pootin is a Narcissist ....it's like he wants to rebuild the military.... and in the process of doing it... poke at other countries to make a name for himself....and I don't think China would appreciate it much if he launched a nuke anywhere....they are enjoying an economy boom...he won't get away with it that's for sure 2
ALPHA
2 Not much consolation for anyone underneath when the darn thing goes BANG!!!

shaun
Re: Pootin trying to put in
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:26 pm
by ALPHA
jarndice wrote:ALPHA wrote:billpe wrote:
No we shouldn't. I was in Kiev last week on business and I can tell you that people there are really happy that they've finally got rid of a Russian puppet as President and they can work on getting rid of corruption now but they're literally scared to the point of having bags prepared to run right now.
The irony is, apart from the very east of Ukraine, they've never been more solidified as a nation which is working against Putin. The more he plays the bad guy, the more they become anti-Russian.
2But we have to remember these days the Russia isn't the Soviet Union. They don't have anything like the military they did and allot of what they do have is old. The problem that people in Kiev see is that he has nukes and natural gas. They need that gas - Ukraine gets very cold from October to March - and they're scared of the nukes. He could launch one and no one will retaliate. They'll scorn him and put up more sanctions, even China might put up sanctions, but ultimately he could conceivably get away with it. This makes people very very nervous.
Pootin is a Narcissist ....it's like he wants to rebuild the military.... and in the process of doing it... poke at other countries to make a name for himself....and I don't think China would appreciate it much if he launched a nuke anywhere....they are enjoying an economy boom...he won't get away with it that's for sure 2
ALPHA
2 Not much consolation for anyone underneath when the darn thing goes BANG!!!

shaun
I agree Shaun...there's a good chance China has already reinforced their boarders with mobile launchers already...Pootin would be foolish to play the nuke hand ...In my mind there are two countries you just don't mess with... they don't play poker

....That would be Israel and China ....when it comes to retaliation ....not only are they quick... but will give no Quarter no matter what the world community might think ....Hooo Ra!!!! for them
ALPHA
Re: Pootin trying to put in
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:58 am
by ALPHA
Told ya .... Don't mess with the Israelis
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/world/mea ... ael-plane/
Looks like Syria tried a Pooting (Pootin peeping ) maneuver

....apparently they weren't as successful as the Soviet effort....you know ...finding out how long it takes to scramble interceptors... open comm... whether or not the defending pilots came in hot or not ....they just shot the bird out of the sky
BOO YA! Syria....

HOOO RA!!! Israel
ALPHA