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HERMAN BIX wrote: very early africa tanks were yellow/grey camo combined

Sorry, but I have not seen evidence of this. Where did you get the information?

David

HERMAN BIX wrote:The outside V's inside pics do vary a lot, and to look at it is better than it photographs.
Its 'new' white unweathered at the moment, but it will be getting the dirty treatment and the brush has yet to go over the white.
The subject pic is quite white in places, but very grey in others, so by the time I take the similar patches off the barrel, the usual crew access areas, add the helmets and the pole & mud up the drive train he should be close.
The cam pattern is very visible under the WW, and the uneven coverage should brush off quite well once I get to it.
time will tell.

Still smells like my Mrs does when she gets ready to go out but !!:think: , and that folks is partially to blame for getting me into my latest predicament if you know what I mean

Sounds like a plan Have a comment about the scent... but since this is a family oriented board...think I'll keep it to myself but yes I get where you went...going..and might go again

ALPHA

Herman you do have a way with words
Looks great can't wait to see the hairspray results

Markocaster wrote:Herman you do have a way with words
Looks great can't wait to see the hairspray results

One result we all just heard news of.... ... ....Will be wondering if Herman can get past the scent to get any work on his Tiger done

ALPHA

DavidByrden wrote:

HERMAN BIX wrote: very early africa tanks were yellow/grey camo combined

Sorry, but I have not seen evidence of this. Where did you get the information?

David

Just to clarify, not specifically just Tigers were sent to Africa grey and oversprayed. The timing of the 505th Tigers meant they fell short of the later directive to paint base dunkelgelb even though they were recalled from the shipment to Tunisia as planned.I call these "the first 15" and I doubt they were covered in the DAK yellow.
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/panzer-col ... 4-1945.htm

My concept was to assume based on units like GD and DR into and during the Kursk conflict were actively using grey Tigers, there are many sources that elude to (my) 505 machines being sent from training in Belgium, entrained to Russia in time for Kursk with paint paste drums of the rot braun and dunkelgelb to field or support base apply.
Of course soon enough the factories applied dunkelgelb as the base.

Well, I just hooked in and gave it a go.
Its actually so easy its also easy to over do it. Which I did-in places.
Used a stiff brush and a new toothbrush, dampened the area to be 'worn' and banged the brush on the area just holding it between my thumb & finger like a bat !
It looks a lot better already with just this. No weathering/mud etc etc but this will come.
Once I finish this part I will go over certain spots with a toothpick and try to get a bit fancy around the foot traffic crew areas.
The engine deck seems to be looking like its seen refueling and foot traffic work.

Just on an hours work and a first go at this hairspray thingo.

Coming along very well. Keep up the good work.
Alan

HERMAN BIX wrote:

DavidByrden wrote:

HERMAN BIX wrote: very early africa tanks were yellow/grey camo combined

Sorry, but I have not seen evidence of this. Where did you get the information?
David

Just to clarify, not specifically just Tigers were sent to Africa grey and oversprayed.

OK, but I want to ask about Tigers specifically.

HERMAN BIX wrote: The timing of the 505th Tigers meant they fell short of the later directive to paint base dunkelgelb even though they were recalled from the shipment to Tunisia as planned.

OK, so you're talking about Tigers intended for Africa that didn't actually go there. But my question is, why do you think they were given a grey base coat?

HERMAN BIX wrote: I call these "the first 15" and I doubt they were covered in the DAK yellow.
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/panzer-col ... 4-1945.htm

By "DAK yellow" I suppose you mean one of the Tropical base colours. Why do you think these Tigers didn't have it?

David

The timing of the 505th unit getting formed-equiped with Tigers stopped from the Tunis trip-sent to belgium-entrained for Russia in time for Kursk- the documented photographed 'sister' units (GD and DR ,1st SS Gren , 502, etc) having some grey vehicles for the duration of the Kursk campaign-, literature indicating the hurried detour without having been despatched for Africa- the OKW directive that Gelb as a base was after these vehicles had left the factory but not yet consigned to Tunis in time for the tropical yellow,................ information that paint paste in the red brown & dark yellow was also sent with the unit
Theres enough absent from view to allow the plausible thought that these Tigers MIGHT or indeed DID have grey paint when arriving in Russia (certainly in Belgium)and the paint sent with the unit was then used as planned-or not in some cases.

The Early Grey Collection was also a useful reference point.
Jean Restayn also makes available various illustrations that give sufficient credibility that I have taken '100' was Grey based.
Tiger Im Focus was also a huge help.

Walks like a duck-quacks like a duck...................

Good Morning, Herman,
Excellent job on the Whitewash, my friend.
regards,
Painless