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You say that but have you looked at the rear deck? The turret mounting rings? Here I might add that the hl kt has the best turret mounting setup that I have seen in a rc tank. There is zero turret bob with this tank. I have seen guys spend days getting the truuet mounting right...going this rout will save me a bunch of time.

The thing that I am having trouble figuring out how to do is the front armor seam....I want the upper and lower armor plates fit togather like they were designed with the knotches and I want the fit to be tight enough so when the upper hull is in place, it does not look like a seam....

Well, got some more work done with the e50/kt .....first thing I did was get the side plates to the same angle as I wanted for the front upper plate......





then i put in the lower plate spacers....



next I temp glued the upper front plate to get the seperation point.....



...then I got totaly distracted....I hate where hl mounts the antena....they even get the antena mount in the right place but they mount the antena on a motor access point???!!!....so i drilled the proper antena mounting point....





then I pulled out the antena mount fter unscrewing the mount wire...



A little glue, a little filler and boom....



then I continued getting distracted and went after the hatches....since the drill was out and all......





then its connect the dots....with the razor knife...






and that was the end of the night.....till next time....

Well, I spent about 2 hours working on the seam between the upper and lower armor plate....what a pia....might take a couple more hours...thinking about the turret. The tinny turret panther f turret is not going to cut it, to small for the kt 88mm...here is a diagram of the gun in the f turret...



see the shell aganst the turret ring?....Nope, this tank needs something else...here is a pic of a king tiger behind a is7...




One of the reasons the kt is so tall is because there are torsion bars in the floor as well as a drive train going under the turret....well the e50 would not have torsion bars, so the whole drive train could be dropped almost a foot. This would mean more room for fuel, cooling system and you could drop the turret almost a foot......

Looking at the 2 tanks. The Kt just looks proportionally right. The e50 on the other hand ,gives the look of...i have just been sat on look. Compared to that of the Kt. You cant beat the prowess of a Kt on the battle field for demoralising the enemy.

For some reason, people have put the panther f turret on the e50. The e 50 was supose to replace the panther and the tiger at 50-70 tons. The e50 did not have a turret designed for it. Beacuse the allies were coming out with 40-50 ton tanks ( is2-3, m26 and centuren's), I am sure the only gun for the e50 had to be the kt 88mm. As a result the turret would be designed for the kt 88....the panther f turret was designed for the panther 75mm. I am thinking that the turret should like the king tigers...but...It should be shorter hight wise....and since the e50 was supose to be produced in large numbers, the turret would need to be easy to produce....I am not sure I will have the curved sides....

The Production King Tiger Turret was much easier for them to produce,so it would seem the E50 would have a design based on that construction method,and since the production changes SPEER put in place were the prevailing methods the design would be as similar as possible.

As for the gun,I THINK the bigger gum would be used,they were trying to introduce a bigger tank,not just a bigger hull,don't really see the advantage of this design if it only is to support the 88. What is the point then of the design,how does it then provide a better weapon?

Well the new design creates more crew space,then they loose that by the hull height being reduces,now what is the point?

This thing cannot out drive the allies so it must out shoot them,and at a far greater distance than the 88, 5000 YARDS and effective penetration. 12.8cm PAK44 L/44 OR L/55 Perhaps,but then the E-100 was designed for that system. The reference article is odd in that they talk about a better fatter round,and more space for the crew,easier production,and then keep going back to the 88 gun and the steel Road wheel issues.

Yes I get the easier production Idea,and the space saved by the suspension,but then why reduce hull size and lose that space they were trying to gain. Space for easier loading and more ammo,which is the point,a better rate of fire,and more of it.The entire idea seems to just go around in a circle,lower profile tank,but then the very space the were trying to gain goes away. Very odd how this Tank would be a benefit.

Well, been cutting and chopping again.....starting the redo on the upper armor plate....













and let the glue sit....but I still have some more time so its on to the turret....time to brake down the sucker...





note that all of the workings of the turret are mounted on the roof....









Time for some thinking......

Well here is what i have to work with.....







The lines I have marked on the turret are how much I can cut off the turret with out hitting something I need in the roof of the to make the guts work....
So what should I design? I am kinda thinking that if the germens had had time, they would have chosen to design something that was easy to produce...so the curver king tiger sides would not be an option imo. I think they would have gone with something like on of the E100 designs...just smaller for the king tiger 88mm... some thing like this....




So off come the ends of the prosche turret...and on go some triangles with the slope I want for the turret....





Why triangles?...because I am not sure how tall I want the turret to be....on to more thinking.....

In the mean time...I picked up something they were throwing away at work for some housing for the nead battle field...should be able to get 3 corners of a damaged house out of these.....to the jig saw......

:thumbup:Progress, your a brave man taking on such a radical build as this, so much to figure out and so many issues to consider,well done. Glacis armor looks good, now the Turret really seems to be a challenge, I'm sure you will produce a fine custom build.

All the best,keep the pictures coming

Nice work. The tank will feel right at home with some buildings around it. It may help or it may not. But when i scratch build any thing new. I use card 1st.Then just transferred that to the plastic card.