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Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 7:39 pm
by Johnf
Hi Blake. Good photos. I was searching for some decent photos of this detail for ages. Finally scraped together enough to proceed.
I used 3mm brass angle for the angles underneath.
I will get some more steel sheets to make the rear guards.
Are your wheels rubber tire or all steel late type.
Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:50 pm
by Saxondog
Hi John, Guards look great,I thought after taking those pictures would be a good reference. My wheels are going to need some work,they are late model steel type. Thanks fully the poor workmanship of the center bore can be corrected. Also I have the bearings to install.
By the way Received an E-MAIL from Adrian and things will work out it seems,great guy. Well seems we shall have a busy summer,and hopefully a productive one. Thee wheels will require alot of work, but I first will center bore the hubs,then true all the outer radius to match. Once that is accomplished the issue then becomes the contact surface,I have not worked this out.

- Tiger Road wheels Mid-Late model
Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:59 am
by Saxondog
Another wasted weekend due to bad weather,rain rain go away I could only work on the machine gun today.
Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:35 am
by Saxondog
Well a short update,Tracks and sprockets from Adrian who has an Armortek Tiger offered these for sale on their forum.John here on our forum has been great in helping me find the parts to turn this badly damaged Tiger into a bad boy with the solid drive components and many detail parts. SASGRUNT (Mike)another member here has offered and sent many of the stock parts as he has upgraded and does not need these parts. Bottom line is for almost two years I've owned a damaged Viper Tiger Tank not worth the cost to repair,but with the help of these fellows this build is moving forward,the only problem now is the wait for UPS to arrive with the parts, Saxondog
Still trying to perfect the MG,
Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:18 pm
by pzrwest
The road wheels on a Tiger 1 should all be the same thickness. There are 3 road wheels on each axel. The wheels are interleaved and staggarded as shown in this sketch I made with paint program. here is the pic.....

Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:40 pm
by Saxondog
48 wheels would be early model road wheels correct? And 36 would be mid-late road wheels correct? I have some unique challenges but based on the control arms from Armortek and the machine work on the wheels in the picture they might be slightly to thick but may yet work out.
Until the drive sprockets and tracks arrive,plus the suspension arms my project is on hold. But you drawing is correct for early model road wheel placement, and even though I would prefer early model Tiger the details dictate a later road wheel pattern.
Saxondog
Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:06 pm
by pzrwest
Sometimes the outer road wheel was eliminated on outter most road set. Steel road wheels weren't used on earlier Tigers. Looking at the above diagram the wheel I'm referring to is the set 2nd from the left and then everyother road wheel set.

Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:31 pm
by Johnf
You might need to check the tracks to make sure they will be compatible with your wheels. They late wheels comprised 32 wheels.
2 ON EACH AXLE.
This is the inner and outer. 4 of these each side. I do not have photo of the centre pairs but you can see them in place in the next photo.
Similar to what you have except they have cast the centre pairs as one fat wheel.
Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:58 am
by Saxondog
Right John,they did cast my wheels as one piece,and Harold your correct as well but I have to work with what I have.Last night when I answered your post I'm looking at my Tiger S13 and the early road wheel set with the rubber linings.
I had to wait a while for these wheels but they are the preferred set,if not for all the hassles I would rather have another S13 in 1/6 scale. But as my build thread of S13 shows I do know the finer details,and also know that you are very skilled at reproducing the finer details.
But my Viper is what it is and my priority is to get the engineering resolved,and who knows maybe John will hook me up again with another great deal from the Armortek Forum. Not to mention all the detailed parts he has been so generous with..
The pics below are from last year I think,the Henschel King Tiger is now Camo painted late 1944 number 013 Grossdeutschland unit tank.
Thanks guys for the information,and John I REALLY am grateful for all your help. As you know,

- Commander Peiper inspecting S13 Note early road wheels

- Grossdeutschland unit beginning to take shape
Re: Mid-Late Tiger rebuild
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:08 am
by Saxondog
John I forgot to point out the decals on S13,Their the same ones we talked about,just in 1/16 the tactical markers on the back and the Jagdpanther decals which are printed from the set sent with it but my early attempt to use decal paper with stick on backing.

- Note the tactical white helmet of Grossdeutschland Division and the barrel detail,I have these in 1/6 scale