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Re: Masking Methods

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:44 am
by Mackem
Wow, many thanks Oz. :thumbup: But it looks like you might have given yourself the job of doing another tutorial in the tips and tricks section. :D What do you think lads?

007: I have tried liquid latex 'Maskol' and it is ok on flat panels. But on an area like the engine deck it is a total pain and very hard to remove. So, the 'Silly Putty' method looks like the way forward ( but with less thinners this time eh? :{ )

Many thanks again Oz
John

Re: Masking Methods

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:06 pm
by oz
your welcome mate :D .

there is one thing i would like to say, i had a PM from one of the guys not to long ago stating that i am trying to tell people how to paint their models according to the gospel of oz (his words) and if its not done my way then its not worth doing at all.

i hope guys don't think this is the case because all i want to do is help people who have a problem that i have also come across and managed to solve myself, in doing so it causes less frustration to them if i can help them out and hopefully enjoy the hobby more.

so basically what I'm saying is the methods of painting and any advice i give is my own personal way of doing things and is definitely not intended to persuade you guys to do things as i see it.

thanks oz.

Re: Masking Methods

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:10 pm
by mt 1
love the camo paint on panther :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: Masking Methods

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:47 pm
by oz
if you use silly putty on the rear deck of panthers or tigers take a small piece of wet paper and put it over the grills, this stops the silly putty from sinking through the mesh screens.

oz.

Re: Masking Methods

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:02 pm
by grim_marmazet
oz wrote:your welcome mate :D .

there is one thing i would like to say, i had a PM from one of the guys not to long ago stating that i am trying to tell people how to paint their models according to the gospel of oz (his words) and if its not done my way then its not worth doing at all.

i hope guys don't think this is the case because all i want to do is help people who have a problem that i have also come across and managed to solve myself, in doing so it causes less frustration to them if i can help them out and hopefully enjoy the hobby more.

so basically what I'm saying is the methods of painting and any advice i give is my own personal way of doing things and is definitely not intended to persuade you guys to do things as i see it.

thanks oz.
Your painting guide was excellent oz and I never thought it was preaching, just a useful guide to help some of us who aren't so good at painting. I think everyone has their own style, and you provided an excellent guide and did exactly what this forum is for; sharing ideas and discussing new ways of doing things. :D
Cheers,
Rik

Re: Masking Methods

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:49 pm
by Saxondog
I will be happy to state my experience with Oz,I was a difficult learner,but Tony was never short with me and because he demonstrated the methods in a way I could understand and copy I was able to produce a quality paint job that has been set beside a stock Tamiya TIGER at the local shop and all present could not believe the difference,or the fact that mine was not a Tamiya or what was described as a quality brand.Also if I remember correctly it was me and Steiner who asked Tony to help us by demonstrating his methods.And Tony very humble,agreed to help us and we are better modelers because of his help.That is the thread that binds us on this forum,it is this desire to help one another openly that sets us apart from the masses.

Re: Masking Methods

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:11 am
by Mackem
oz wrote:your welcome mate :D .

there is one thing i would like to say, i had a PM from one of the guys not to long ago stating that i am trying to tell people how to paint their models according to the gospel of oz (his words) and if its not done my way then its not worth doing at all.

i hope guys don't think this is the case because all i want to do is help people who have a problem that i have also come across and managed to solve myself, in doing so it causes less frustration to them if i can help them out and hopefully enjoy the hobby more.

so basically what I'm saying is the methods of painting and any advice i give is my own personal way of doing things and is definitely not intended to persuade you guys to do things as i see it.

thanks oz.
Oz, I asked for help on masking methods and you very kindly took the time to demonstrate ( with photo's ) several excellent techniques which I and many others will definitely be using on our tanks. I suspect the person who accused you of 'preaching the gospel of Oz' isn't capable of producing museum grade models such as yours and is simply jealous of the attention your tutorial on weathering received. This forum would be a much poorer place if it wasn't for the input of top class modellers such as you.

John

Re: Masking Methods

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:19 am
by Saxondog
Well said John!

Re: Masking Methods

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:32 pm
by STEINER
there is one thing i would like to say, i had a PM from one of the guys not to long ago stating that i am trying to tell people how to paint their models according to the gospel of oz (his words) and if its not done my way then its not worth doing at all.

i hope guys don't think this is the case because all i want to do is help people who have a problem that i have also come across and managed to solve myself, in doing so it causes less frustration to them if i can help them out and hopefully enjoy the hobby more.

so basically what I'm saying is the methods of painting and any advice i give is my own personal way of doing things and is definitely not intended to persuade you guys to do things as i see it.

thanks oz.[/quote]

Hi Oz

First of all I must have missed this particular post. Can I just support what john and Blake have said regarding this PM from some one. Like a lot of people I started off modeling as a Kid, Tanks, planes, rockets, you name it I built it and set fire to it LOL. After I got married, I started again, never used an airbrush always a paint brush, never knew much about weathering/washes ect the models were Ok but not what I was really looking for and I packed in. After taking up RC tanks, I decided that I wanted to paint/weather them but using an airbrush this time. Your post on painting and weathering with Sax was a god send to me, as I have read a 101 books on the subject of airbrushing and painting and weathering but and its a big but, they hardly ever tell you about paint ratios, or explain washes and the ratios used. They tend to be very, very illusive. For me your post gave me exactly what I needed, paint types, thinners, techniques, and most importantly ratios.

Not many Master class modelers share 30 years of modeling experience with beginners or inexperienced modelers so you deserve great credit for it. Nothing has ever been a trouble to you when I have asked many questions. The problem with this guy is that to him, you have broken the rules of the painting and weathering Magic Circle by explaining your skills to less experienced people and some don't like it.

Cheers for all the help mate, I for one appreciate it. :thumbup: :thumbup:

STEINER