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Re: Electrical fault

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:42 pm
by john1970
Jofaur86 wrote:found on RCUnivers forum
RE: Installer Asiatam Recoil dans Panzer 3
Le fil rouge épais est un fil de terre et relie le moteur de recul à la terre via le micro-interrupteur pour terminer le cycle de recul (amener le pistolet à la position d'origine)...
Ils auraient dû utiliser un fil noir pour éviter toute confusion ...

Le petit fil rouge amène l'alimentation (7,2 Volts) aux moteurs d'élévation et de recul...
Le fil vert déclenche l'élévation et le fil jaune déclenche le recul tandis que le fil rouge épais (lorsqu'il est connecté à la terre) complète le cycle de recul ....
Espérons que cela aide ...Norm.
Translation

The thick red wire is a ground wire and connects the recoil motor to ground via the microswitch to complete the recoil cycle (bring the gun to the home position) ...
They should have used black wire to avoid confusion ...

The small red wire brings the power (7.2 Volts) to the lift and recoil motors ...
The green wire triggers the elevation and the yellow wire triggers the recoil while the thick red wire (when connected to ground) completes the recoil cycle ....
Hope this helps

Re: Electrical fault

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:52 pm
by jarndice
Jofaur86 wrote:found on RCUnivers forum
RE: Installer Asiatam Recoil dans Panzer 3
Le fil rouge épais est un fil de terre et relie le moteur de recul à la terre via le micro-interrupteur pour terminer le cycle de recul (amener le pistolet à la position d'origine)...
Ils auraient dû utiliser un fil noir pour éviter toute confusion ...

Le petit fil rouge amène l'alimentation (7,2 Volts) aux moteurs d'élévation et de recul...
Le fil vert déclenche l'élévation et le fil jaune déclenche le recul tandis que le fil rouge épais (lorsqu'il est connecté à la terre) complète le cycle de recul ....
Espérons que cela aide ...Norm.
English translation-----
Quote"
Found on RC Universe Forum,
RE: Install Asiatam Recoil in PZ3,
The thick red wire is a Ground/Earth wire and connects the recoil motor to the Ground/Earth via the Microswitch,
To complete the recoil cycle (Bring the gun to the position of origin),(They should have used a Black wire to avoid confusion)...
The small red wire brings the power (7.2 Volts) to the elevation and recoil motors...
The green wire triggers the elevation and the yellow wire triggers the recoil while the Thick red wire (When connected to the Ground) completes the recoil cycle,
Hope this helps, Norm"
End of translation.

Re: Electrical fault

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:10 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
A translation of Jofaur's observations from RC Universe, just for convenience:
"...found on RCUnivers forum
RE: Install Asiatam Recoil in Panzer 3
The thick red wire is a ground wire and connects the recoil motor to ground via the microswitch to complete the recoil cycle (bring the gun to the home position) ...
They should have used black wire to avoid confusion ...

The small red wire brings the power (7.2 Volts) to the lift and recoil motors ...
The green wire triggers the elevation and the yellow wire triggers the recoil while the thick red wire (when connected to ground) completes the recoil cycle ....
Hope this helps ... Norm.

Jofaur86...."

Re: Electrical fault

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:33 pm
by john1970
its slightly wrong the green wire triggers the recoil and is connected to the same terminal as the yellow wire which goes to a microswitch for the return earth wire in red and a black wire triggers elevation

Re: Electrical fault

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:09 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
Taigen IR wiring of all electronic components
Taigen IR wiring of all electronic components
Taigen Wiring_Diagram_for_IR_1024x1024.jpg (73.23 KiB) Viewed 377 times
This should help to understand the IR circuit used in V3 models. There is another version, but that has the 360degree slip ring. You don't have that. Is there a thick black or red connector coming out of the MFU?
If so, that's where the red lead ("Ground - Wire") from the recoil should be coupled. If not, then, it goes to earth on the main switch. Perhaps you connected it to the live side of the switch. :problem:
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Re: Electrical fault

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:17 pm
by john1970
Topper wrote:Hello
I connected the red wire from the recoil unit to the black wire from the on/off switch, I didnt think this was a good idea but I did it anyway, on starting the tank, smoke came from the turret, I switched off the power, now the gun will not go up or down, I have ordered a new recoil unit,Im putting this one in the bin.
Thanks for all the help!!!!
Frank
Doing it that way is the way it use to be done before they put the wire on the MFU. Forgebear sells an on/off switch with a recoil return connected to it
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by getting smoke from the turret suggests that the green wire that goes to the same motor terminal was connected to a live that shouldn't have happened as it is the centre wire on the 3 pin plug so even if the plug was in the wrong way round it would still be the centre wire connected to the centre pin

Re: Electrical fault

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:34 pm
by Topper
Hello
" on/off switch with a recoil return connected to it" I conected the black wire shown in your pic, I put the recoil in the bin,