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Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:04 pm
by MikeHamilton
jarndice wrote:And don't forget the Isopropanol (Acrylic Thinners) to clean the vehicle before paint,
I don't know if you know but all German military vehicles between 1939 and 1945 used Red Oxide as a primer, Any garage accessory store will sell you a large rattle can of the stuff which is enough for at least 2 tanks for less than £10.
Thanks for the heads up .
I’ve got about 10 litres of IPA (bought just before the first lockdown) as I do a bit of 3D resin printing for my model railway.
Red oxide primer is on my shopping list.
Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:30 pm
by Herr Dr. Professor
I believe Jarndice is correct about the red oxide primer. Now as to IPA, around here that means „India Pale Ale.“ 10 litres! WHEEE!
Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:37 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
Yes, the red oxide primer is for historical accuracy, but Mike will still need a non ferrous primer for the metal parts

Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:27 pm
by MikeHamilton
Herr Dr. Professor wrote:I believe Jarndice is correct about the red oxide primer. Now as to IPA, around here that means „India Pale Ale.“ 10 litres! WHEEE!
IPA means the same as that where I am, about 12 miles north of Bury St Edmunds, home of the Greene King brewery.
Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:30 pm
by MikeHamilton
Son of a gun-ner wrote:Yes, the red oxide primer is for historical accuracy, but Mike will still need a non ferrous primer for the metal parts

For my model railway I use Halfords aerosol primers for plastic and when necessary their primer for metals. Would they be ok to use? If not, what make do you suggest please?
Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:38 am
by Bassetus44
A good choice for a first adventure and much good advice. Dave at Forgebear is a super guy to deal with.
One function that hasn’t been mentioned & some find annoying is ‘track recoil’, whereby the tank indexes back then forward again on firing the gun. If this gets to you as it does me, Dave has a V3 Taigen Version that permits the track recoil to be switched off. There are add-on boxes that can offer this, but the V3 with anti track recoil is just a straight swop ie. unplug & re-plug.
Forgebear ref:-
Taigen 2.4 gig GHZ MFU Control Upgrade 1:16 Scale RC Tank V3 Version with anti track recoil.
Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:59 am
by MikeHamilton
Thanks Bassetus44 for the advice.
Basically I just want to “play” with the tank and find out what I like or dislike about it’s functions and operability and then once I’ve decided what I want from it then go down the upgrade route without hopefully breaking the bank.
First job though is to strengthen the deck so it doesn’t sag from the turret weight, which can be an issue by all accounts.
Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:08 pm
by jarndice
MikeHamilton wrote:Son of a gun-ner wrote:Yes, the red oxide primer is for historical accuracy, but Mike will still need a non ferrous primer for the metal parts

For my model railway I use Halfords aerosol primers for plastic and when necessary their primer for metals. Would they be ok to use? If not, what make do you suggest please?
The trouble with using Aerosol Metal Primers is it goes everywhere and is just plain wasteful.
Unless you have an all metal Tank I would advise you get something like "Mr Metal Primer-R" (Find it on E-Bay or any decent model outlet) which comes in a small bottle and lasts forever,
It can be easily applied directly to the desired area by brush, left to dry then sprayed or brushed over with your primer of choice as part of the whole painting process.
Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:51 pm
by MikeHamilton
jarndice wrote:MikeHamilton wrote:Son of a gun-ner wrote:Yes, the red oxide primer is for historical accuracy, but Mike will still need a non ferrous primer for the metal parts

For my model railway I use Halfords aerosol primers for plastic and when necessary their primer for metals. Would they be ok to use? If not, what make do you suggest please?
The trouble with using Aerosol Metal Primers is it goes everywhere and is just plain wasteful.
Unless you have an all metal Tank I would advise you get something like "Mr Metal Primer-R" (Find it on E-Bay or any decent model outlet) which comes in a small bottle and lasts forever,
It can be easily applied directly to the desired area by brush, left to dry then sprayed or brushed over with your primer of choice as part of the whole painting process.
I’ve got tons of rattle can red oxide primer already from doing my model railway. But priming etc is a long way off yet. I’ll get any mods / upgrades done before any paint gets anywhere neat it.
Re: Loads Of Questions From A Newbie
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:03 pm
by jarndice
I am talking about Metal Primer Mike,
It is quite soul destroying to paint a model only to see the paint self destructing on the metal parts
