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You would think it would be easier to model but I think it’s more difficult.

David mentions attachment points. I guess that these would be captive nuts (welded), like the ones lining the sides, where the tracks guards are mounted. I imagine that later Mid and Late models would not have had the mounting points. By then, the need to simplify the build (because of the time involved, and the shortage of steel) became more urgent, just as the Panzer IV ausf. 'J 'had fewer features than earlier iterations.

Shaun, Alan Hamby seems to think that Feifels were first introduced in Nov 1942, along with track guards. Assuming he's correct, then it would seem that all production Tiger 1s up until Nov. 1942 (Deliveries to units began in Aug.1942) clanked into action minus track guards and Feifels.
Here's a reminder of Alan's useful timeline of modifications :
http://alanhamby.com/changes.shtml

Roy I think it is now an established fact that the first ten Tiger 1s were issued for service without front and rear and side fenders and minus Feifel Air Cleaners or any attachments for them,
The question would appear to be when was the last of the initial Ten Tigers delivered and when were the first modified Tigers placed in service.
The first four Leningrad Tiger 1s were knocked out in their first action,
None of the Tanks suffered penetration damage They were all recovered and repaired,
Did they go back to "Henschel" to be fixed or were they repaired in a field workshop ?
Common sense says they would go back to the factory not only for repair but inspection of every component to see how the Tank in service use was lasting and what modifications were needed if any,
That may be the reason for the apparent delay of the modified Tigers going into service and would account for Alan Hamby's dates,
I have to say looking at Tank construction from a layman's viewpoint with the knowledge of how many Tiger 1s were built in total the end of August to the beginning of November is no time at all, Especially when you remember that German industry did not go onto 24/7 working hours until 1943.
But in truth I am guessing and that is never a good idea when dealing with History.

jarndice wrote:Roy I think it is now an established fact that the first ten Tiger 1s were issued for service without front and rear and side fenders and minus Feifel Air Cleaners or any attachments for them,
The question would appear to be when was the last of the initial Ten Tigers delivered and when were the first modified Tigers placed in service.
The first four Leningrad Tiger 1s were knocked out in their first action,
None of the Tanks suffered penetration damage They were all recovered and repaired,
Did they go back to "Henschel" to be fixed or were they repaired in a field workshop ?
Common sense says they would go back to the factory not only for repair but inspection of every component to see how the Tank in service use was lasting and what modifications were needed if any,
That may be the reason for the apparent delay of the modified Tigers going into service and would account for Alan Hamby's dates,
I have to say looking at Tank construction from a layman's viewpoint with the knowledge of how many Tiger 1s were built in total the end of August to the beginning of November is no time at all, Especially when you remember that German industry did not go onto 24/7 working hours until 1943.
But in truth I am guessing and that is never a good idea when dealing with History.

I'd pretty well forgotten this thread, until it was exhumed. I'm glad it has been, as it led me back to David's Tiger info site (where does he get all this inside info?). There he mentions a feature unique not only to Tiger 1 tanks, but also to Panzers in general: 'Mirrored tracks':

"...These first 9 Tigers had a unique appearance. They had no fenders or storage on the hull sides. Their mudguards at front and rear did not project beyond the hull side (these were also used in Tunisia). They were issued with "mirrored" tracks, i.e. the right and left tracks were different, unlike those of any other German tank; the crews disliked the inconvenience and eventually put just a single type on each Tiger..."

This explains something that has been puzzling me about Tamiya's Full-Option Tiger 1 tracks. Reading the manual, it says that the pins must be inserted inboard of the track. However, looking at the tracks, if one were to do that, one would appear to have a forward profile, whilst the other a reversing profile. Very odd.

Having watched a series lately on Yesterday about factories in Wartime, I find it amazing that Britain was able to gear up for full-scale production of war materials long before the Germans. You'd think they would have picked up on the American and British evolution of the automated production line, and also the ease with which British factories could switch from making cars say, or pianos, to Tanks and Aircraft. (Furniture and Piano makes switched to building Mosquitos- for example)

Hi Tiger 100 with the twin bins,was the first Tiger captured ,it was captured by the Russians ,they took loads of photos of it in Moscow then took it to the range and found out which anti-tank gun could kill it.It may be the reason they fitted the 85mm to the T34.

regards pete

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(where does he get all this inside info?). There he mentions a feature unique not only to Tiger 1 tanks, but also to Panzers in general: 'Mirrored tracks':

David Byrden holds the Copyright on http://tiger1.info/
A very rich source of information on all things Tiger.


Mr Hitler c/o Albert Speer compounded the problem by discouraging women from working in the factories instead using forced and foreign labour neither of which were as likely to be devoted and patriotic workers as German women would have been.