Whats your favourite german tank?

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Re: Whats your favourite german tank?

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As always IMHO... :D

German would have to be the Panther. By the time of the G model most of the teething problems had been corrected. Extremely lethal tank killer. While the Tiger was a sledgehammer breakthrough weapon, the Panther with it's high velocity gun was like a scalpel. First shot, first kill ratio was higher than any other German tank. Also when you kill on first shot, you move, giving it better survival rates. Much cheaper to produce than the Tiger series, an easier tank to learn on as well, It influenced tank design for years after the war. In the west I know from talking to a few vets and in literature that a lot of time when units reported they were under fire from Tigers it was actually Panthers that were chewing them up.

As has been said time and time again most experts agree it was almost the perfect balance between speed, armour, and firepower.

As a side note since it so influenced Panther design the T34/76. It was a revolutionary design no one else had come close to in the period of it's release. It too did have teething problems but by late 42 was good to go. Just an all round efficient tank. The biggest benefit from my view is it was built for war in Russia with few roads and horrendous winter conditions. It's ground pressure weight let it move over all sorts of terrain that German tanks were incapable of even attempting. Sloped armour gave it increased protection while not increasing weight, the 76 gun was a good gun but the optics weren't great. The motors were bullet proof although the initial transmissions were not the greatest. General overall maintenance was very simple for even raw crews. With proper radios, command and control, and proper inter-arms coordination the Russians could have ended it sooner before the Germans stepped up their armour I have no doubt...
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Re: Whats your favourite german tank?

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For German tank..Panther in many ways but of course in terms of effectiveness and "best" it would have to be in which year..so Tiger I..Panther had their dominant moments vs. other tanks. KT is hard to argue against too..in many ways it was really a super Panther with improvements in quite a few areas such as wheel configuration..transmission. Plus that gun of course!
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Tiger I, Tiger II, IMO they were the pinnacle of the German tank design from the standpoint of toughness and fire power.

The Panther was a tough tank but IMO did not have the "I'm going to stomp you" look!

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Re: Whats your favourite german tank?

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Most of the Aces commanded Tigers
Tiger 1 Early Taigen,
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
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Tiggr wrote:Most of the Aces commanded Tigers
And then graduated to the Tiger II. :D
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Re: Whats your favourite german tank?

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So, if I have read this discussion correctly we have: :/

Panzer IV ~ 4 votes
Jagdpanther ~1 vote
Tiger 1 ~5 votes
Tiger 2 ~1 vote
Panther ~1 vote

Perhaps the moderators could set up a vote table, much like TOTM, with one vote per person. ??? o-

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Re: Whats your favourite german tank?

Post by Afrikakorps »

Oh, and just to add to the list, my favorite is the Ferdinand tank destroyer. :O
On a kill ratio, the most successful TD of the war.
And many of you will say what a lemon, but with its 88mm gun, look out T-34's, you could loose your turret at 3000m ! :wtf:

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No mention of "best" or "the war" , just favourite german tank ;)
...but I have to agree with you on the Leopard. :D

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Re: Whats your favourite german tank?

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I have to say it's the Tiger 1. Why not only was it the most feared tank in WW2, it had a very accurate 88mm. gun. Yes, it was a nightmare to work on and over engineered but what German vehicle wasn't. Look at the numbers of kills verses how many the allies knocked out and the Tiger has no equal.
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Re: Whats your favourite german tank?

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King Tiger had an 88 also but the higher velocity version then the Tiger.
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