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Re: Dare To Compare

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:34 pm
by ALPHA
HYBRID
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hy·brid
?h??brid/
noun
noun: hybrid; plural noun: hybrids

1.
Biology
the offspring of two plants or animals of different species or varieties, such as a mule (a hybrid of a donkey and a horse).
"a hybrid of wheat and rye"
synonyms: cross, cross-breed, mixed breed, half-breed, half-blood; More
mixture, blend, amalgamation, combination, composite, compound, fusion
"a hybrid between a brown and an albino mouse"
2.
a thing made by combining two different elements; a mixture.
"the final text is a hybrid of the stage play and the film"
Just for the Heck of it :D

ALPHA

Re: Dare To Compare

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:57 pm
by frankie
Thanks for the education as I said I'll bow out and leave this discussion to the experts... ;)

Re: Dare To Compare

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:25 pm
by ALPHA
frankie wrote:Thanks for the education as I said I'll bow out and leave this discussion to the experts... ;)
Aside from you Frankie...I see mostly Hobbyists...that would include myself...I know you're the Top Shermanologist here....have probably assembled more M4s as well of the Variants than probably the entire membership put all together ;)

Appreciated your Input Frankie...Always will :thumbup:

ALPHA

Re: Dare To Compare

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:33 pm
by frankie
Just a hobbyist myself..just don't like seeing people getting their facts wrong but convincing everyone they're right because they can write an essay about it...lol
...anyway not getting baited any more..

Re: Dare To Compare

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:39 pm
by ALPHA
frankie wrote:Just a hobbyist myself..just don't like seeing people getting their facts wrong but convincing everyone they're right because they can write an essay about it...lol
...anyway not getting baited any more..
What facts were wrong...I didn't write any essays ...I do use words "generally speaking" which may not conform to someone who is looking for "specifics" ...but like I said...I'm a HOBBYIST...no where near the expert that you are


ALPHA

Re: Dare To Compare

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:50 pm
by frankie
I actually first posted when Corp only mentioned m4 hybrids and welded (hull extended) then said Firefly's were bases on full cast hulls, which he's since edited..you then jumped in not only redefining the whole Firefly classification with an Engish lesson and finding a photo of full cast hull Sherman's (something that every Firefly website says did not exist.).. :lolno:

Re: Dare To Compare

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:13 pm
by ALPHA
frankie wrote:I actually first posted when Corp only mentioned m4 hybrids and welded (hull extended) then said Firefly's were bases on full cast hulls, which he's since edited..you then jumped in not only redefining the whole Firefly classification with an Engish lesson and finding a photo of full cast hull Sherman's (something that every Firefly website says did not exist.).. :lolno:
This Pic??????????
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I didn't take the pic...I just found it....but there they are...they could be the Griz
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But who knows for sure ...I wasn't there...So I can't say whether or not what is written at other sites is true

I don't really think anyone can say...as that generation is as pretty much a part of History as the tank itself


ALPHA

Re: Dare To Compare

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:24 pm
by ALPHA
A few more photos of the Canadian M4a1 Grizzly
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One noticeable difference straight off the bat from the Normal M4 are the tracks...the sprockets have more teeth..so the tracks are closer linked


ALPHA

Re: DaRe to CoMpArE

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:15 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
ALPHA wrote:
43rdRecceReg wrote: Personally, I'm not keen on the Sherman. It had a high centre of gravity, affecting stability, and a high profile relative to overall size in the Landscape (like its predecessor, the M3 Lee), making aiming an almost leisurely pursuit for german 88s, whether from an anti-tank position, or from tiger turret. I can already hear the howls of protest :O and rage >:< from Sherman fans...but it's also a fairly ugly tank! Pity the War office couldn't get more Comets out there earlier!
However, since my Dad and my Uncle were both in armoured units during the war, they would have been familiar with the Firefly...and the bog standard Sherman. If I had a model, though, it would have to be the to Vc Firefly to reflect their experience
Thing is..........The Sherman was easily deployed...Fast Fast Fast...Reliable ...with Parts a plenty...IMO and I don't care what is said about it being a firebox....for the time...It was the perfect solution to other concepts that were being produced by other countries ;)

Oh....I'm gonna overlook that Ugly Statement :lolno:
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cause a Tank really shouldn't be Pretty....the Sherman is what it is intended to be...a "Work Horse" of a vehicle...it still looks good...but not as sexy as a
Chaffee :haha:

ALPHA

OK, well in the interests of Mechanical Correctness- a new variant on the odious 'Political' version, I shall amend 'Ugly' to 'Aesthetically challenged'. Also, I'm forced to admit that you posted one really fetching picture of an "Aesthetically challenged' tank there. I'm almost drawn to it, and beguiled by its allure...like the infamous 50s and 60s 'Blue woman behind a tree' picture... :haha: :lolno:

Re: DaRe to CoMpArE

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:59 pm
by ALPHA
43rdRecceReg wrote:

OK, well in the interests of Mechanical Correctness- a new variant on the odious 'Political' version, I shall amend 'Ugly' to 'Aesthetically challenged'. Also, I'm forced to admit that you posted one really fetching picture of an "Aesthetically challenged' tank there. I'm almost drawn to it, and beguiled by its allure...like the infamous 50s and 60s 'Blue woman behind a tree' picture... :haha: :lolno:
Aesthetically challenged??????????????? :wtf: ................ :haha: :haha:
Makes me wonder what you think of this "mini me" Sort of Sherman lol...The M22 T9e2 LOCUST

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Kind of cute eh :haha: :haha:

ALPHA