airbrush or brush?

[ALPHA]

Thx Alpha for your salute and the tip of your hate not sure if that hat suits you lol

Maybe I should have said Cover
Makes me think of a Robert Redford Movie....He played an officer who was convicted of something....was sent to a military Prison....Long Story short as I'm sure you are familiar with most prison type movies....there was one segment...where he explained the Salute
The tale he told was how Knights would lift and tip their visors before a joust ...showed the proper motion....the person who the story was told..then saluted him every time they crossed paths ...even though it was against the prison warden's decree

Now it probably has nothing to do with painting or the tipping of my Cover ...but the thought is there ....I think


ALPHA

[ausf]

I completely agree with Tom.

I have three Iwatas and a host of the best Series 7 Sable brushes available and short of figure painting, tiny detailing, weathering or touchups, there is no instance where hand brushing is superior to airbrushing for models.

Even small things like tool heads, etc benefit from airbrushing.

I'm not saying that you can't get good results by hand brushing, but if you invested the time and effort to pull that off into getting better with an airbrush, the results would be staggering.

Paint formulas are getting better for hand brushing in the past few years, and there are reasons why not to airbrush (noise, cleanup, etc) but if you have access to both, there really isn't a question in my mind.

Here's the base coating of a splinter camo all done with an airbrush. I would never be able to get that flat with a hand brush. After covering it, I'll go in and do the details with a brush. The three splotch colors were masked and the splinters were sprayed through a small PE screen.

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How did you do the masking? Very inpressive. Figure work is some where is like to start using my airbrush more but have struggled to get to grips with.

I masked the colors with tape, then sprayed the rain marks through an old T-34 PE screen, taped off:

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[ALPHA]

Here you go Sarge...found a clip from the Movie..."The Last Castle"



And yes Sarge...I Salute you


ALPHA

[SargeV1]

Hi Alpha i salute you back SIR

Thx for the clip tbh ive heard of the film but have never seen it.

[ALPHA]

Hi Alpha i salute you back SIR

Thx for the clip tbh ive heard of the film but have never seen it.

For me the movie was and O K view...as far as prison movies go...I think The "Shawshank Redemption" had a stronger story..and the "Green Mile" stronger Acting....that scene with the salute is probably one of the more memorable moments in that show....the rest is pretty much the Stereotypical abuse of power thing ...I'd recommend as a rental or a watch on TV...as a keeper??...it would be a coin toss

Now back to painting....I have to admire anyone that can lay down gloss paint with a brush and it coming out smooth...it isn't easy...when I did it on models it would almost never come out...I did finally manage to get a technique for it...but never tried it on a model as I was past that by years...used the technique on SAYA...or Katana Scabbards...Still do to this day

Happy Tanking Sarge


ALPHA

[tanks_for_the_memory]

Hi Sarge / Brendan,

Some sound comments above - and ausf your airbrush work on that figure is a wonder to behold. Having said that I guess you will be brush painting the face?

I started out brush painting 1/35 afvs in my younger days (late 70s / early 80s) when airbrushes were seen as exotic and expensive - and compressors even more so. Rattle cans (aerosols we called 'em) were rare as well.

Well everything is cheaper these days (OK, not everything).

The magic of the airbrush (and cans to some extent) is an EVEN coat. I guess you could brush paint a 1/16 scale tank in multiple thin layers and end up with a great finish, but this would take a long time. With an airbrush (so long as you stay at a distance and don't do layers too soon) you get this wonderful CONSISTENT finish over EVERYTHING very quickly.

Camo and final detailing is something else - this takes practice, although can be mastered in time - but don't be afraid to invest in a basic airbrush and compressor. Don't waste money on cans of compressed air - you WILL regret it.

Alternatively just go for some rattle cans but keep your distance and keep moving in a circular motion to avoid build-up of paint...

Please show us how you get on!

Tanks

[SargeV1]

Guys thx so much for all your help on this subject you all have left me with food for thought thx again.

[ALPHA]

Now all you have to do is get a tank Sarge...that way we can really bear down on you with some heavy critiques


ALPHA

[43rdRecceReg]

Finding the right airbrush kit, at the right price is also fairly vital. The budget one I bought last summer was described as being suitable for 'painting nails. customising cars and model work". Well, it certainly didn't have the puff to paint a whole 1/16 tank. I produce more spray in a sneeze than this thing can manage; but after ten coats of Vallejo acrylic (10 of thinner to 2 of paint..when the paint should be thinner-free) I managed to get the job done. But then, I knew nothing about airbrushes, and the need for nozzle size greater than .3mm for larger jobs, or about having a compressor capable of minimum flow rate of 20CFM etc. and much more besides. Also, I'm not given to painting my nails...
What might be useful here, is if more experienced members could give us the pros and cons of the airbrushes and compressors they've had their best results with. I know, for instance that Iwata have prestigious name in the airbrush
market, but I'd like to hear why.. On the surface, one airbrush looks pretty much like another; but the price differential can be jaw- dropping, and certainly off-putting to the beginner dipping his (or possibly her) toes in the creative waters of airbrushing for the first time..
I did find these links on Ebay to be quite useful as a starting point though: http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Airbrush-Buyi ... 488/g.html
and....http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Your-Guide-to ... 677/g.html
Perhaps it might be worth a minute of your time, Sarge, to have a wee peek.

[SargeV1]

Hi Alpha thx for that now iam worried lmao