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Re: White Tiger
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:28 am
by Son of a gun-ner
Kaczor wrote:This time is on official Mosfilm channel. Some great Soviet movies they have there like 5 part epic "Liberation" with fantastic battle scenes.
Thanks for that extra info, much appreciated

Re: White Tiger
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:09 pm
by Herr Dr. Professor
Hi, 43rd. Rec. You wrote that you have "found that the Finns have created some of the best WW2 flicks." What are some examples? I can live with English or German subtitles or even a taste of the film even if I cannot understand a word.

Re: White Tiger
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:47 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
Herr Dr. Professor wrote:Hi, 43rd. Rec. You wrote that you have "found that the Finns have created some of the best WW2 flicks." What are some examples? I can live with English or German subtitles or even a taste of the film even if I cannot understand a word.

This would be one, Prof:
Then there's the award-winning Latvian film: 'The Rifleman'( A Baltic 'feel' like Finnish films, and a connected culture...)
viewtopic.php?f=88&t=32222&p=317610&hil ... sh#p317610
I've bought these on DVD along with many others. Estniche is also a fan (and he has a Baltic family background'). These should get you started, though. I've actually posted reviews of other Finnish films here, but it's easy enough to find them on Amazon and elsewhere. Finnish (like its relative, Hungarian) is not actually an indo-European language, even though the Balts are ethnic Europeans. English and its related tongue, German, share 3-4 grammatical cases (Nominative, Accusative etc...) but Finno-Ugric speakers have 14 to deal with !!

This explains why no one outside of Finland, or Hungary, ever learns Finnish or Hungarian and why they tend to learn English in school
https://jkorpela.fi/finnish-cases.html
Luckily, the subtitles of these films ARE in English.
Whilst on the topic of language roots, Mr Langfocus here has a fascinating website bubbling over with immersive linguistic stuff. Here, he points out that Friesisch is the closest relative to English in Europe.
I think you'll like his presentations.
Re: White Tiger
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:15 am
by Herr Dr. Professor
Thank you! I have limited access to online goodies: no cable, a house on a hillside buried right among tall trees, not so local cellular towers. However, I found out that typically, a movie uses 2 gigs of download. At nominal cost, I just increased my monthly cellular connection allotment from 15 to 50 gigs. It's not good enough for voice phone, but YouTube often works. Yippee! I will start with the linguistic video (my Piledhigh&Deep is in Rhetoric and Linguistics). Now I have "White Tiger" and "1944 The Final Defence" to check out, even if there are pauses for the download to catch up.
As to grammatical cases, I thought Latin was bad.

Klingon, by the way, has a great one, marking the degree of a speaker's certainty about what he is saying; in effect, the case marks "Don't actually believe what I am saying; I'm just reporting" vs. "I stake my life on it because in this Klingon culture if I am wrong you would kill me."
Re: White Tiger
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:20 am
by 43rdRecceReg
Herr Dr. Professor wrote:Thank you! I have limited access to online goodies: no cable, a house on a hillside buried right among tall trees, not so local cellular towers. However, I found out that typically, a movie uses 2 gigs of download. At nominal cost, I just increased my monthly cellular connection allotment from 15 to 50 gigs. It's not good enough for voice phone, but YouTube often works. Yippee! I will start with the linguistic video (my Piledhigh&Deep is in Rhetoric and Linguistics). Now I have "White Tiger" and "1944 The Final Defence" to check out, even if there are pauses for the download to catch up.
As to grammatical cases, I thought Latin was bad.

Klingon, by the way, has a great one, marking the degree of a speaker's certainty about what he is saying; in effect, the case marks "Don't actually believe what I am saying; I'm just reporting" vs. "I stake my life on it because in this Klingon culture if I am wrong you would kill me."
Ah yes, Ed, I recall those days of digital poverty. Here, in the Highlands, I'm right at the extreme end of the Telephone network. When broadband was based on copper 'landline' connections, I suffered badly from 'buffering' (no, not a medical condition), and spinning beach balls. However, I think the infrastructure in Britain is far more up-to-date than that found in the US (well, according to my brother, who lives on Cape Cod).
I got together with some neighbours in the village, and petitioned for 'superfast fibre'- and we got it.
Thus, I've gone from an ends-of-the-Earth digital peasant, to a full-fibre (to the premises) aristocrat. (150 Gbit- but could be more, if I bled more cash).
Still, '...a house on hillside buried right among tall trees'..has to be the ultimate compensation.

All you need, now, is a large Atlantic-fed loch nearby (as I have- lucky me) to complete the idyll.
Here's another Finnish film I bought on DVD (4 hr 30 min miniseries in 5 episodes): 'Tuntematon Sotilas'. or the Unknown Soldier, by Aku Louhimies.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4065552/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
Re: White Tiger
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:14 am
by Herr Dr. Professor
Tanke. Jo binne gelok om te wenjen tichtby in loch. And it is Freezian here in Wisconsin today.

Re: White Tiger
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:21 pm
by Lenny Warren
I'd forgotten about White Tiger, thanks for the reminder, downloaded it ahemm.. and will watch tonight.

Re: White Tiger
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:49 pm
by MikeHamilton
Watched it this afternoon on YouTube.
Quite a good film. Loads of action and a quirky twist at the end.
The replica Tiger was in pretty short order as others have said, but hey ho, it’s only a film
Good examples of weathering to be seen if you need inspiration.