Amateur Build. HAYA Centurion KIT

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Re: Amateur Build. HAYA Centurion KIT

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I will say, I have two TK50 boards with dead sound circuits. I've discussed them with Clark and will be sending them to him for repair. Mine also fully work except the sound portion of the board. Mine are very early version of the board and supposedly lack a noise filter the newer boards have. He stated that there were some early boards where the sound AMP was sensitive to noise from the motors if no noise suppression capacitors were installed on the motors. I was told I can send the boards back to have the noise filter installed that the newer boards have. I would definitely contact Clark and just let him know the sound portion is dead. He had me take a pic of the board to verify the lack of the noise filter.
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HAYA Centurion KIT. Return Clark Board.

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Sadly the volume control from my RTR Centurion did not work, so Andrew (at HAYA) has asked to have the board back so I have packed it ready to send back tomorrow.
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HAYA Centurion KIT. Good Support for HAYA.

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A very good reason to buy from Andrew at HAYA is his total support for his products, and this makes a big difference when you come across a problem that you cannot resolve for yourself.....and this is particularly reassuring when building this HAYA Centurion KIT.

This KIT build has more or less been completed now and I can reassure anyone that is considering making one of these kits for themselves that it is "probably the best supported kit that you could ever wish to buy" and Andrew at HAYA is always there for you if you have a query or need some help or advice.

For my own experience I can say that If you should find any damaged or missing parts, they will be replaced very quickly - and that alone puts this KIT in a class of its own!

Andrew has been very helpful right he way through this build and recently gave me some ideas to try when the sound suddenly stopped working, but as soon as it became apparent that everything had been tried and the sound had still not been restored, he immediately asked me to send the Clark Board back to him.

Hopefully the Clark board will be with Andrew at HAYA tomorrow morning for him to check/test and identify the reason why the sound stopped working so abruptly.

Maybe as tankme has found with two of his Clark TK50 boards, this was an early type (although only bought very recently) that does not have the noise filters installed. Hopefully it can be upgraded or replaced with the newer type of board that has these noice filters fitted.
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Re: Amateur Build. HAYA Centurion KIT

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tankme wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:58 pm I will say, I have two TK50 boards with dead sound circuits. I've discussed them with Clark and will be sending them to him for repair. Mine also fully work except the sound portion of the board. Mine are very early version of the board and supposedly lack a noise filter the newer boards have. He stated that there were some early boards where the sound AMP was sensitive to noise from the motors if no noise suppression capacitors were installed on the motors. I was told I can send the boards back to have the noise filter installed that the newer boards have. I would definitely contact Clark and just let him know the sound portion is dead. He had me take a pic of the board to verify the lack of the noise filter.
Thanks to your contribution Derek,

Knowing that I am not alone in having the sound on my Clark TK50 board suddenly stop working is very reassuring.

I now feel much happier about the failure of my own Clark TK50 board knowing that there is a "fix" for this "known fault".

You are the only person to let me know about this problem - I thought I was "on my own" - with a failure that was unique to me and my KIT build, and this caused me to worry that I had done something to cause the failure.

Your information is much appreciated - now I can stop worrying !

Do you have a contact link for Clark that you can let me have please?

Bob.
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Re: Amateur Build. HAYA Centurion KIT

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I thought the sound issues with the amp blowing was with the TK24, Hopefully Andrew will give you a new board rather than sending it to be repaired, I sent a TK24 with the Tiger1 soundset to Clark in China for the amp repair, I fitted it back in to the tiger a few years after receiving it back and it blew the amp again so I would request a new TK50 and not a repair.
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Re: Amateur Build. HAYA Centurion KIT

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Ludwig von wigbearer wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:23 pm I thought the sound issues with the amp blowing was with the TK24, Hopefully Andrew will give you a new board rather than sending it to be repaired, I sent a TK24 with the Tiger1 soundset to Clark in China for the amp repair, I fitted it back in to the tiger a few years after receiving it back and it blew the amp again so I would request a new TK50 and not a repair.
Good advice !

I have already requested a new replacement board from Andrew as I have only recently purchased it.

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HAYA Centurion KIT.New Type Clark Board Failed.

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Andrew at HAYA has just advised me that my Clark Board was the NEW TYPE with the noise filters !

This is quite worrying if the new specification Clark boards are blowing out the sound function just like the old (pre noise filter) types were doing!

Let's hope mine was just a "one-off" and that the replacement Clark board will work the sound function without failing when Andrew sends me the replacement.
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HAYA Centurion KIT. Wrong Clark Board?

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This is the Clark board that I bought for my HAYA Centurion KIT.
https://www.hayaltd.co.uk/product/haya- ... trol-board

It is advertised as being :- "Haya Clark TK50 1/16 Centurion Tank Main Board Tank Control Board". and I paid £99.98 for it.

I already have an RTR Centurion and they all come with smoke and gun flash - so from the advert, I thought that I had bought the correct board - but I have just been advised that this is NOT the same board that comes with the RTR Centurion as it is not capable of supporting the gun smoke function.

This is the board that I need to buy if I want the same board that comes in all RTR Centurions:
https://www.hayaltd.co.uk/product/haya- ... trol-board

It is the more expensive TK50HSP Clark Board, and that is the one that supports the gun smoke function that comes on all RTR HAYA Centurions and the cost is £160.

Both boards come pre-loaded with the correct Rolls Royce engine sound when bought from HAYA and are set-up for "plug and play", but only the more expensive TK50HSP will allow me to fit and use the barrel smoke option that I have on my RTR Centurion.
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HAYA Centurion KIT. Need to Buy a New Board.

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I have been given a full refund for the faulty Clark TK50 board so I can decide what new board to buy and fit sometime in the near future.

Although I am not in any hurry, and I know that I need the TK50HSP board if I want to include the smoking barrel feature - but £160 is a lot of cash for a board so I am happy to "tread water" for a while and think about it.

My KIT build is more or less completed and I know that everything is tested and works OK and that the tank drives OK too, so I can spend some time finishing the detailing and weathering (and looking for Berlin Brigade spray masks) etc knowing that when I drop a new working board into the tank everything will work without needing to take anything apart.

I may decide to change the blue motors - they work well enough - but they are no better than the standard kit motors - although they look a little better!
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How to Prevent Another TK50 Failure?

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Rather than have a static model of a Centurion, I have decided to fit another TK50 board and not bother fitting barrel smoke.

Although I do like barrel smoke (never did grow up!) the £160 for a TK50HSP board plus the cost of the smoke unit and the extension board makes it a little too much for my pension to cover at this time of year (Christmas is coming!).

What I am keen to find out about is - if there is anything that I can do to help prevent another TK50 board failing?
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