Tiger ambush
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Re: Tiger ambush
Good points all
The clincher though is surely this:
There are numerous German tank aces with many kills which are well documented.
Most of them were Tiger 1/2 or Panther commanders.
From the allied side there no tank aces of the same caliber. (Not that are well known - I stand to be corrected on this)
Therefore in spite of all the drawbacks of the heavy German armour the proof is in the kill ratios.
The clincher though is surely this:
There are numerous German tank aces with many kills which are well documented.
Most of them were Tiger 1/2 or Panther commanders.
From the allied side there no tank aces of the same caliber. (Not that are well known - I stand to be corrected on this)
Therefore in spite of all the drawbacks of the heavy German armour the proof is in the kill ratios.
Tiger 1 Early Taigen,
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
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Re: Tiger ambush
Can of worms mate..................more targets=more kill probability
More Time in theatre= more targets= more kill probability..............
The German forces had certainly more time in theatre and more targets especially in Russia, than the corresponding Western Allied tank forces, so the kill rate was certainly always going to be higher.
Bear in mind that from June 6-'44 the war ended in a shade under 365 days, but the duration was 2194 days...........
And that would have been a "target-rich-environment" for the German armoured forces to both hone their skills, and improve their machines.
Historical facts aside, your tanks are of a very high quality, and put within the background that we can all envy, make them even better.
If I had a similar setting, I would use the prunings from the setting trees to festoon the tanks with
More Time in theatre= more targets= more kill probability..............
The German forces had certainly more time in theatre and more targets especially in Russia, than the corresponding Western Allied tank forces, so the kill rate was certainly always going to be higher.
Bear in mind that from June 6-'44 the war ended in a shade under 365 days, but the duration was 2194 days...........
And that would have been a "target-rich-environment" for the German armoured forces to both hone their skills, and improve their machines.
Historical facts aside, your tanks are of a very high quality, and put within the background that we can all envy, make them even better.
If I had a similar setting, I would use the prunings from the setting trees to festoon the tanks with

HL JAGDPANTHER,HL TIGER 1,HL PzIII MUNITIONSCHLEPPER, HL KT OCTOPUS,HL PANTHER ZU-FUSS,HL STuG III,HL T34/85 BEDSPRING,
HL PZIV MALTA,MATORRO JAGDTIGER,HL F05 TIGER,TAMIYA KT,HL PANTHERDOZER,HL EARLY PANTHER G,TAIGEN/RAMINATOR T34/76,
HL AN-BRI-RAM SU-85
HL PZIV MALTA,MATORRO JAGDTIGER,HL F05 TIGER,TAMIYA KT,HL PANTHERDOZER,HL EARLY PANTHER G,TAIGEN/RAMINATOR T34/76,
HL AN-BRI-RAM SU-85
Re: Tiger ambush

Enough pontification methinks.
Time for more pictures.
I did do a few folliage festooned pics Mr B, one to be going on with.....
Tiger 1 Early Taigen,
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Re: Tiger ambush
HERMAN BIX wrote:Can of worms mate..................more targets=more kill probability
More Time in theatre= more targets= more kill probability..............
The German forces had certainly more time in theatre and more targets especially in Russia, than the corresponding Western Allied tank forces, so the kill rate was certainly always going to be higher.
Bear in mind that from June 6-'44 the war ended in a shade under 365 days, but the duration was 2194 days...........
And that would have been a "target-rich-environment" for the German armoured forces to both hone their skills, and improve their machines.
Historical facts aside, your tanks are of a very high quality, and put within the background that we can all envy, make them even better.
If I had a similar setting, I would use the prunings from the setting trees to festoon the tanks with
Thanks Mr B

One account of an "ace" that sticks in my mind went as follows :
Sorry, can't remember names and exact location, but as the Russians were crossing Poland and getting close to Berlin, one Koenigstiger picked off dozens of T34s and his tally if memory serves was 102 tanks in total - no mean feat and hence my assertion that the "superiority" of the Tiger/Koenigstiger stood out - albeit in a defensive position at long range.
Certainly the early Tiger 1s if not all of them were made from a manganese steel alloy - which made the steel even more resistant to AP shells than the great thickness of the armour.
The later Koenigstigers grade of steel was not as good a quality, however the sloping armour helped cancel that out.....
Tiger 1 Early Taigen,
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
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Re: Tiger ambush
The difference a great environment makes for rc tank photos!
They won't fool anyone into thinking it's real tanks due to the over-sized greenery. However. They suddenly look much more - I don't know- alive?
Taking the pics from low angles, with the train tracks and buildings in the background immerses the viewer much more/better than "studio" pics, me thinks. The pics become more of a "tableau vivant" , so to speak.
I love that.
They won't fool anyone into thinking it's real tanks due to the over-sized greenery. However. They suddenly look much more - I don't know- alive?
Taking the pics from low angles, with the train tracks and buildings in the background immerses the viewer much more/better than "studio" pics, me thinks. The pics become more of a "tableau vivant" , so to speak.
I love that.
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Re: Tiger ambush
Yes Paul has the most enviable backyard in the world! His tigers look spectacular with all the buildings and train tracks

Tanks alot....

Re: Tiger ambush
Thanks guys. 

Tiger 1 Early Taigen,
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Re: Tiger ambush
You would laugh if you saw how big the garden is Mick - it's only 12.0m x 10.0m and part of that is the paved area by the house.
Tiger 1 Early Taigen,
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Re: Tiger ambush
Thanks Mick.
Tiger 1 Early Taigen,
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Tiger 1 Mid Torro,
Tiger 1 Late Taigen,
King Tiger Taigen (P)
Jagdtiger Torro
King Tiger (H)
King Tiger Torro (H)
Tiger 1 late Torro
Panther G Taigen
Re: Tiger ambush
Like the train too, great stuff.