I always see if I can get the tracks correct first Marc...if need be I will reinforce the Idlers...my KT didn' t need it... I ran it through every torture test...it passed with flying colors..I've found the amount of slack plays well into how these things track and perform...for me... I haven't really found tensioners to be of much benefit because of the limited travel on them...if anything..they are IMO...designed to add more rigidity to the rear end...the major problem with track derailment is because the idler wobbles ...so stabilizing those...and not running the tracks too tight helps keep them stableMarc780 wrote:I had problems with track throwing both plastic and metal. ... Not throwing but shifting out of place on the idler...I love the KT but the metal tracks are massively heavy after all. Eto armor sold me the Henntec idler system for $56, with my new panther and other projects haven't put it in yet or I'd show the pictures. It's that or the torro lower hull I guess because I've tried everything else.

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