Pz.Kpfw.VI Ausf.B Königstiger
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Re: Pz.Kpfw.VI Ausf.B Königstiger
dont know much about this one but , the guys ive spoke to about aftermarket torsion bars said they are a bit of a pain to set up but once set up are great , i did look into getting them but went for the standard ones plus i kept the tamiya wheels but have fitted wheel bearings
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Re: Pz.Kpfw.VI Ausf.B Königstiger
Fellow Tankers!
I'd like to know if it's possible to buy the following items in UK:
http://mitosal.com/Transmission_Unit.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://etoarmour.com/product_detail.php?productID=DP07" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(apparently, this one is fairly "easy" to make but I have no idea how...
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Thanks!
I'd like to know if it's possible to buy the following items in UK:
http://mitosal.com/Transmission_Unit.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://etoarmour.com/product_detail.php?productID=DP07" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(apparently, this one is fairly "easy" to make but I have no idea how...

Thanks!
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Re: Pz.Kpfw.VI Ausf.B Königstiger
Earlier mention of etch primer. Available in Uk. Easiest to find in halfords as Upol etch primer. Bonds to the outer molecules of metal. Good insulator between different types of metal also as some metals act against each other. Do not use on plastic parts as it contains acid. Use s mask as not good for your lungs.
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Ive bought everal items including the KT transmissions from mitosal. Never had a problem with customs charges, only seems to be items from the USA that get wacked! Btw I would strongly advise the drop outs over the impact tus. You get 3 different pinion gears which allow you to alter the speeds to taste.
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> The step down gearboxes are nice in that you can give it full throttle and the tank will reach the max scale speed... Now there in lays the problem,,with that reduction come alot of torque, so then all that bracing is required.
To be honest, I'm eager to get those new metal reduction gearboxes because I want to acheve more realistic scale accelerations and speeds AND I will be using ALL NEW METAL SUSPENSION - full metal road wheels, late sprockets and metal tracks, etc. Does that mean that with the IMPACT gearboxes the braces are a must??? Hmm, where to get them from in UK?
> Ok the primer, can you get a hold of the red Krylon primer? it is a very superior primer and sticks well with no real prep, just ensure you are grease free..
So the Tamiya primer is worse? I haven't got any yet but I will be buying it this weekend.
> Earlier mention of etch primer. Available in Uk. Easiest to find in halfords as Upol etch primer. Bonds to the outer molecules of metal. Good insulator between different types of metal also as some metals act against each other. Do not use on plastic parts as it contains acid. Use s mask as not good for your lungs.
OK, please forgive me this question but I've simply never done it before... Do I apply the etch first, normal (red Krylon) second and the paint third??? Would you recommend doing all this to all non-mechanical parts BEFORE assembling them with screws and metal thread lock?
> I would also look on ebay and get a set of real roller bearings to replace those bushings, that is probably the best investment you could really make!
I have bought a few used models and the wheels were messed up and real loose because they used the tank alot, they all had bushings. They just started showing up for the King Tiger.
As I mentioned above, I'll be getting WeCoHe all metal roadwheels with bearings already installed (the set is worth a massive £250!). Do I still need the roller bearings??? I guess not. Would you consider the WeCoHe wheels good quality? (let's forget about the price for now
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> The Zimmeritt coating I never liked from Tamiya. it is a sticker after all and tends to lift with age. I prefer to use putty to make the Zim coating. It is harder though. If you want to go with a late war KT in an ambush scheme, I say leave the Zim off! I have made 4 KT's without it..
When should Zimmerit be applied?? After etch & normal metal primer, just after assembling the hull or after I fave it all screwed together? Sorry once again - I'm not ignorant - just a noob.. .
> Oh, get the Photo etched screens too
Because I'm not British I need to make sure I know what we're talking about...
Are these the metal substitutes for plastic low-detailed elements??
> Ive bought everal items including the KT transmissions from mitosal. Never had a problem with customs charges, only seems to be items from the USA that get wacked! Btw I would strongly advise the drop outs over the impact tus. You get 3 different pinion gears which allow you to alter the speeds to taste.
Yes, but you can get pinion gears for the IMPACT gearboxes as well (there's a ling on this site: ) I'm all confused now
Please, clarify which gearboxes would be superior (realism of movement and non-malfunctioning [metal])...
Thank you!
To be honest, I'm eager to get those new metal reduction gearboxes because I want to acheve more realistic scale accelerations and speeds AND I will be using ALL NEW METAL SUSPENSION - full metal road wheels, late sprockets and metal tracks, etc. Does that mean that with the IMPACT gearboxes the braces are a must??? Hmm, where to get them from in UK?
> Ok the primer, can you get a hold of the red Krylon primer? it is a very superior primer and sticks well with no real prep, just ensure you are grease free..
So the Tamiya primer is worse? I haven't got any yet but I will be buying it this weekend.
> Earlier mention of etch primer. Available in Uk. Easiest to find in halfords as Upol etch primer. Bonds to the outer molecules of metal. Good insulator between different types of metal also as some metals act against each other. Do not use on plastic parts as it contains acid. Use s mask as not good for your lungs.
OK, please forgive me this question but I've simply never done it before... Do I apply the etch first, normal (red Krylon) second and the paint third??? Would you recommend doing all this to all non-mechanical parts BEFORE assembling them with screws and metal thread lock?
> I would also look on ebay and get a set of real roller bearings to replace those bushings, that is probably the best investment you could really make!
I have bought a few used models and the wheels were messed up and real loose because they used the tank alot, they all had bushings. They just started showing up for the King Tiger.
As I mentioned above, I'll be getting WeCoHe all metal roadwheels with bearings already installed (the set is worth a massive £250!). Do I still need the roller bearings??? I guess not. Would you consider the WeCoHe wheels good quality? (let's forget about the price for now

> The Zimmeritt coating I never liked from Tamiya. it is a sticker after all and tends to lift with age. I prefer to use putty to make the Zim coating. It is harder though. If you want to go with a late war KT in an ambush scheme, I say leave the Zim off! I have made 4 KT's without it..
When should Zimmerit be applied?? After etch & normal metal primer, just after assembling the hull or after I fave it all screwed together? Sorry once again - I'm not ignorant - just a noob.. .

> Oh, get the Photo etched screens too
Because I'm not British I need to make sure I know what we're talking about...

> Ive bought everal items including the KT transmissions from mitosal. Never had a problem with customs charges, only seems to be items from the USA that get wacked! Btw I would strongly advise the drop outs over the impact tus. You get 3 different pinion gears which allow you to alter the speeds to taste.
Yes, but you can get pinion gears for the IMPACT gearboxes as well (there's a ling on this site: ) I'm all confused now

Thank you!
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I cannot EDIT my posts for some reason 
Here's the link to the pinion gears for the IMPACT gearbox:
http://mitosal.com/HopUpGear.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's the link to the pinion gears for the IMPACT gearbox:
http://mitosal.com/HopUpGear.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Pz.Kpfw.VI Ausf.B Königstiger
Painting..Etch goes on 1st to bare metal, then any good automotive or hobbie primer is then used, then your top coat.
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Ok it seems i can't edit my post either..
1 last thing i was going to say ..Painting oil base and water based paints.. you can put water based paints over oil based..but not the other way round. if you do , you will get a horrible reaction between the 2 paints. with will meen a compete strip down and start again.
1 last thing i was going to say ..Painting oil base and water based paints.. you can put water based paints over oil based..but not the other way round. if you do , you will get a horrible reaction between the 2 paints. with will meen a compete strip down and start again.
Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on.
~~~Winston Churchill~~~
~~~Winston Churchill~~~
Re: Pz.Kpfw.VI Ausf.B Königstiger
Im not saying the drop outs are better because you get pinions with them. Im saying theyre better because they run far more smoothly and turn better. I have two sets of impact TUs and I have chosen to go back to tamiya boxes with drop outs go figure.
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Save your money, the KT doesn't need it, spend your money on detailing bits, paint and weathering stuff.As I mentioned above - the KT being my first R/C Tank I'd like to upgrade it with top quality available add-ons
Then with the money you saved buying all those "upgrade top quality" parts you can get another tank, simples.
just speaking from someone who had the same thoughts as you but when I finish my KT without all the top qual parts viewed from few feet away I did think it mattered.

