Don't shout @ me... but it was this varnish, not lacquerHERMAN BIX wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:50 am I just re-read.
Matt Lacquer
Could have reacted with the product it was covering.
Lacquer does behave different to other products from what I have picked up over the years.
Slippery slope wips.
-
- Private
- Posts: 80
- Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:47 pm
Re: Slippery slope wips.
- Attachments
-
- Screenshot_20241226_094621_Amazon Business.jpg (131.81 KiB) Viewed 1435 times
-
- Private
- Posts: 80
- Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:47 pm
Re: Slippery slope wips.
Mucho dampness?
- Attachments
-
- 20241226_095111.jpg (217.26 KiB) Viewed 1434 times
-
- 20241226_095059.jpg (242.21 KiB) Viewed 1434 times
-
- 20241226_095039.jpg (313.99 KiB) Viewed 1434 times
-
- 20241226_095032.jpg (349.15 KiB) Viewed 1434 times
Re: Slippery slope wips.
In my short experience I have painted mostly with spray cans from 32F +... I find the sweet spot for spraying paint is about 50F-70F. The biggest issue with the paint alone is humidity. After a few bad experiences with matte clearcoats, Tamiya and Testors. I've found to only spray those or any spray paints as close to 50% or less humidity.
Now back painting in the colder temps which I more often have to do based on my seasonal work schedule. I keep the model indoors at ambient temperature until just before spraying And I warm up the cans of spray paint in a bin with hot water from the tap. Sometimes I'll warm it up in 2 batches to make sure its all warmed up and shake it alot in between.
Spray painting absolutely can be done in the cold. It's Not ideal but it can be made to work.

Besides surface prep and the environment the only thing left is how you applied it Or a possible bad batch of paint which I have definitely heard of. And ironically I've heard of bad batches from exactly that brand.
Now back painting in the colder temps which I more often have to do based on my seasonal work schedule. I keep the model indoors at ambient temperature until just before spraying And I warm up the cans of spray paint in a bin with hot water from the tap. Sometimes I'll warm it up in 2 batches to make sure its all warmed up and shake it alot in between.
Spray painting absolutely can be done in the cold. It's Not ideal but it can be made to work.

Besides surface prep and the environment the only thing left is how you applied it Or a possible bad batch of paint which I have definitely heard of. And ironically I've heard of bad batches from exactly that brand.
"Charlie don't surf"- Lt. Col. Bill Kilgore
Re: Slippery slope wips.
Pick the worst off that you can. Then evaluate if you want to try using a thinner to remove the areas with issues. Since you applied the clear coat over everything I'll let you know that scrubbing it down entirely will be a chore but will bring you back to zero. Depending on where you're located in the world will depend on what cleanser can be suggested. But at that point you''ll almost certainly need to repaint everything.BarrelEnvy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 4:41 am Fixage options?
Trying to take the worst off with a wooden toothpick.
"Charlie don't surf"- Lt. Col. Bill Kilgore
Re: Slippery slope wips.
Now if it's just the haze like the last pic you posted of the fender. I've had luck masking off the section, wiping down with alcohol, letting it dry then spraying Tamiya TS-13. Then letting that dry fully and again spraying the matte clear coat. Sounds weird but it worked for me when I had a similar hazy issue with Testors Dullcote that I sprayed when it was a bit too humid out.

The side of my turret went completely hazy to the point that it also ate and curled up the original numbered 213 decal. This pic is after I did the mad method I tried above. This is the second decal set the first ones looked like this-

"Charlie don't surf"- Lt. Col. Bill Kilgore
- Herr Dr. Professor
- Captain
- Posts: 5227
- Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:48 pm
- Location: Southern Wisconsin USA
Re: Slippery slope wips.
I cannot see why anyone would be upset with you for your attempt. Frankly, I am surprised that an Army Painter product caused such trouble, for the brand is specifically for miniatures. However, I have not experience with the particular "varnish."
I do have some experience with paint removal from plastic. The first is Super Clean. I have even soaked plastic in this stuff full strength. Obviously, one needs to remove all the electronics, etc., first, which you clearly know to do. The second is Easy Lift Off. I am a tad more wary of this stuff, so I have never used it on anything but a decal on an isolated surface, followed by super-fine sanding. It is, however, a Testor's product specifically designed for modelers.
I would read all the instructions and proceed with caution, even testing each on a nearly invisible surface before working more generally.
Above all, I wish you success, as I liked your assemblage of modern MBTs.
I do have some experience with paint removal from plastic. The first is Super Clean. I have even soaked plastic in this stuff full strength. Obviously, one needs to remove all the electronics, etc., first, which you clearly know to do. The second is Easy Lift Off. I am a tad more wary of this stuff, so I have never used it on anything but a decal on an isolated surface, followed by super-fine sanding. It is, however, a Testor's product specifically designed for modelers.
I would read all the instructions and proceed with caution, even testing each on a nearly invisible surface before working more generally.
Above all, I wish you success, as I liked your assemblage of modern MBTs.
-
- Private
- Posts: 80
- Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:47 pm
Re: Slippery slope wips.
Firstly, thanks for the advice/suggestions for cause and rectification. 
I'm inclined to fix it with a hammer, and look into replacement, fresh canvas... in petulant disgust
I am, in a strange way, enjoying the learning curve.
Being a former mechanic I felt, if you learn the difficult scenario for a particular task... any other way is easier in future. If that makes sense.
Took ages to rebuild engines using just a garden fork though.
I'm inclined to fix it with a hammer, and look into replacement, fresh canvas... in petulant disgust
I am, in a strange way, enjoying the learning curve.
Being a former mechanic I felt, if you learn the difficult scenario for a particular task... any other way is easier in future. If that makes sense.
Took ages to rebuild engines using just a garden fork though.
- HERMAN BIX
- Major-General
- Posts: 11191
- Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:15 am
- Location: Gold Coast,Australia
Re: Slippery slope wips.
My assumption looking at the pics is that it reacted with the pigment fixer.
HL JAGDPANTHER,HL TIGER 1,HL PzIII MUNITIONSCHLEPPER, HL KT OCTOPUS,HL PANTHER ZU-FUSS,HL STuG III,HL T34/85 BEDSPRING,
HL PZIV MALTA,MATORRO JAGDTIGER,HL F05 TIGER,TAMIYA KT,HL PANTHERDOZER,HL EARLY PANTHER G,TAIGEN/RAMINATOR T34/76,
HL AN-BRI-RAM SU-85
HL PZIV MALTA,MATORRO JAGDTIGER,HL F05 TIGER,TAMIYA KT,HL PANTHERDOZER,HL EARLY PANTHER G,TAIGEN/RAMINATOR T34/76,
HL AN-BRI-RAM SU-85
-
- Private
- Posts: 80
- Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:47 pm
Re: Slippery slope wips.
Due to the fixer not being fully dry?HERMAN BIX wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:12 am My assumption looking at the pics is that it reacted with the pigment fixer.
-
- Private
- Posts: 80
- Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:47 pm
Re: Slippery slope wips.
Were you not the one who mentioned getting pulled in to buying more and more tanks? LolHerr Dr. Professor wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:03 pm Above all, I wish you success, as I liked your assemblage of modern MBTs.
In my introducion post, or someone elses at roughly the same time.
Aaaaaanywhoo... ty.