Is there a way to solve the throw tracks problem of the Henglong German tank?

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Re: Is there a way to solve the throw tracks problem of the Henglong German tank?

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If you are going to use HENGLONG's recoil mechanism, you can reproduce the recoil by purchasing the product in the link below and linking it with the BB unit.

If you want to do the muzzle flash and BB_LUNCH at the same time, there is a successful case in the Korean community by disassembling the BB unit and inserting the 5PI LED in the center of the piston.
However, I cannot recommend it in terms of durability because wires attach to moving pistons.

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I have a simple suggestion as I had heard common horror stories of the panther G and Jagdpanther tossing tracks before I got mine. If you haven't already, remove the tracks, then remove all the wheels, sprocket and idler wheels. Rest the tank upside down on its roof and reinstall all of the wheels. Take note and adjust all the wheels alignment. You may find that the idler wheels may need adjustments and even additions of washers to shim them before you reinstall the tracks You may also consider drive axle bearings. I'm speaking from just me personally but I haven't had any detracking of either my Panther G or Jagdpanther at all. Maybe mine are anomalies or maybe it had to do with me setting up the wheels and track alignment. I also always turn off the spin feature. I hope you find a solution to your issue. I may not drive mine as hard as some but I definitely put them through their paces in dirt, sand and over obstacles.

Forgot to mention that running them super tight doesn't solve the detracking issue.
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Herr Dr. Professor wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:01 pm kanggji2: I believe sand is the sort of surface most likely to put side forces on the tracks, so I do agree with Meter rat that wide turns will be advisable. I do agree with Kaczor that track tensioners will help, but apparently you have already tried that solution. I did not know that track tensioners were offered on HengLong tanks. Did you add them? If so, what brand did you add? Maybe identified the tensioners you are using will help others who have used the same.

I don't know any Korean sellers of RC tank parts, but maybe DKLM in Hong Kong could be of help: https://www.dklmrc.com/page/about. I wish I could help you more.
Both the Heng Long Panther G and Jagdpanther come stock with idler wheel adjuster/track tensioners. Crude compared to Taigen but still adjustable.
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kanggj2 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:55 pm Thank you for your response. Some products in Henglong include tensioner as standard. However, the completeness was not very good, I will buy another tensioner and apply it as you advised.
Consider drive axle flanged sealed bearings as well.

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Forward this video to 1:40 to see what I was describing previously on aligning the wheels.

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It is Taigen and not Heng Long but it is the concept of aligning the wheels that is of importance.
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In addition to the installed bearings, I have oil scraper rings that are used for car valves.
I use them on all tank models.
I understand that not all countries have rings for the VAZ model from the USSR, but I think that cars with 8 mm diameter valves exist in other countries, you just have to look.
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This is what it looks like in Google search.
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Pavel wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:54 am In addition to the installed bearings, I have oil scraper rings that are used for car valves.
I use them on all tank models.
I understand that not all countries have rings for the VAZ model from the USSR, but I think that cars with 8 mm diameter valves exist in other countries, you just have to look.
What function does this ring do?
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MrChef wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:02 am I have a simple suggestion as I had heard common horror stories of the panther G and Jagdpanther tossing tracks before I got mine. If you haven't already, remove the tracks, then remove all the wheels, sprocket and idler wheels. Rest the tank upside down on its roof and reinstall all of the wheels. Take note and adjust all the wheels alignment. You may find that the idler wheels may need adjustments and even additions of washers to shim them before you reinstall the tracks You may also consider drive axle bearings. I'm speaking from just me personally but I haven't had any detracking of either my Panther G or Jagdpanther at all. Maybe mine are anomalies or maybe it had to do with me setting up the wheels and track alignment. I also always turn off the spin feature. I hope you find a solution to your issue. I may not drive mine as hard as some but I definitely put them through their paces in dirt, sand and over obstacles.

Forgot to mention that running them super tight doesn't solve the detracking issue.
Thank you for your advice. Wheel alignment problem seems to be the biggest factor in track throwing symptoms. As a result of checking, the Henglong roadwheel moves more than 2mm from side to side.
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This sleeve is hermetic and nothing gets into the inside of the case. It works like the oil seal in a car...
The fact of the track falling off is also possible due to the mismatch of the pitch of the gear wheel - track.
I had this problem on the Challenger 2.
I sharpened the teeth on the wheel with Prokson.
The fact is that the casting mold does not always cast the part accurately and the tolerances laid down by the design do not take into account the stretching of the track and flashing on the tracks and gear wheel.
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