1/16th Tiger Motors

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Jofaur86 wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:15 am :D Hello Mr.Bix
hope you are well? and once again, you have perfectly summarized, what is happening? unfortunately more and more common these days. Have a nice weekend :thumbup:
Oh, and Mr Jofaur I am otherwise very well and how are you going up there during the Olympics ?
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Re: 1/16th Tiger Motors

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HERMAN BIX wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:58 am Oh is that right matter of fact ?
Hows about..................I just moved in to you next door, day 1 I ask to borrow your lawn mower & $20 to put gas in it.............then you have to ask for it back, and wait for the 20 :eh:

I suggest you revise your approach and try to take a little time out of your life(like we all do) to introduce yourself with some degree of humility and appreciation.

Or, good luck
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Re: 1/16th Tiger Motors

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I was hoping that once made, I would gain more experience, and make more tanks.
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According to the first web link you provided the author had this phrase:

"Optional:
Heng Long RC set TK-6.1S (or TK-7.1S) - includes motor controllers, sound module, reverse
tracks movement, control of airsoft mechanics, etc.
1x servo mini 180° for cannon recoil"


The first suggestion sounds like a printed transmission with "crawler" motors and gears needing a plywood or other non melting/bending material "when heated".

The optional refers to the running gear that comes with the Heng Long Tiger one. A complete tank could be had and generally one of least expensive and most aftermarket support of any other tank in the 1/16th world.

You stated a "room full of parts" so I don't know if some simple drives is all you need or the electronics and other things (turret spin, barrel elevation, recoil, smoke and sound).

If you haven't started printing yet starting with a complete HL Tiger I might be a good bet to start. https://www.rctankwarfare.co.uk/catalog ... ng-tiger-i (from our catalog) and from our Tiger I build threads viewforum.php?f=134 (as Jofaur mentioned in your introduction post).
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Re: 1/16th Tiger Motors

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Welcome.

I own a 3D printer and print a lot of tanks, but I didn't start out printing tanks. I learned about tank gearboxes and electronics by building/modifying a pre-fab tanks. Once I knew the ins and outs of how they operated, I started printing custom parts, then tanks and then tanks with custom mods made by me. Without knowing the basics of tank building, there are way too many variables for us to help you figure it out frankly.

Model Factory has a great manual on their 1/10th Jagdtiger which I have built, but there is a big difference from that to 1/16 scale. What does the manual suggest as motors? There are literally like 10 different Tiger I tanks on the market in 1/16th scale alone which is going to be a reason most of us have never printed that Tiger from Model Factory in 1/16th scale. If I can get a tank for a reasonable price already made, I won't 3D print it. It just takes too much time and effort for something that is already available in the marketplace. I would say most of us are in that boat. 3D printing is great for tanks in the fact you can print stuff the major manufacturers won't sell due to them being a niche tank. The Tiger I is not a niche tank and I think everyone has one except me.

3D tank designers in 1/16th scale either use Heng Long parts or they don't. Not owning the plans for that tank, I have no idea what the internal layout looks like. Some of the designers like Warprints favor 370 motor based planetary gearboxes and some designers like Inkor favor integrating the HL gearboxes. It all depends on how the tank interior is designed. Because I have no idea what the interior would support, I wouldn't be able to recommend any parts for it.
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Well, I went on the website you posted earlier today. Sent them an inquiring email, I just received a reply linking me to their required parts list that is on their website. Maybe you should email them as they don't appear to be absent.
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Re: 1/16th Tiger Motors

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Son of a gun-ner wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:42 pm Well, I went on the website you posted earlier today. Sent them an inquiring email, I just received a reply linking me to their required parts list that is on their website. Maybe you should email them as they don't appear to be absent.
Hi, I did yesterday. The author said they would measure the motor size when they got back from holidays. Thank you for checking.
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Ecam wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:10 pm According to the first web link you provided the author had this phrase:

"Optional:
Heng Long RC set TK-6.1S (or TK-7.1S) - includes motor controllers, sound module, reverse
tracks movement, control of airsoft mechanics, etc.
1x servo mini 180° for cannon recoil"


The first suggestion sounds like a printed transmission with "crawler" motors and gears needing a plywood or other non melting/bending material "when heated".

The optional refers to the running gear that comes with the Heng Long Tiger one. A complete tank could be had and generally one of least expensive and most aftermarket support of any other tank in the 1/16th world.

You stated a "room full of parts" so I don't know if some simple drives is all you need or the electronics and other things (turret spin, barrel elevation, recoil, smoke and sound).

If you haven't started printing yet starting with a complete HL Tiger I might be a good bet to start. https://www.rctankwarfare.co.uk/catalog ... ng-tiger-i (from our catalog) and from our Tiger I build threads viewforum.php?f=134 (as Jofaur mentioned in your introduction post).
Thank you. I'll have a look. I had various parts printed in advance, and I found some parts not printing well. Hence, I kept them in seperate boxes so parts would not be mixed up.
I needed 16 axles, but they break easilly, so I have ended up printing about 30.
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Re: 1/16th Tiger Motors

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tankme wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:42 pm Welcome.

I own a 3D printer and print a lot of tanks, but I didn't start out printing tanks. I learned about tank gearboxes and electronics by building/modifying a pre-fab tanks. Once I knew the ins and outs of how they operated, I started printing custom parts, then tanks and then tanks with custom mods made by me. Without knowing the basics of tank building, there are way too many variables for us to help you figure it out frankly.

Model Factory has a great manual on their 1/10th Jagdtiger which I have built, but there is a big difference from that to 1/16 scale. What does the manual suggest as motors? There are literally like 10 different Tiger I tanks on the market in 1/16th scale alone which is going to be a reason most of us have never printed that Tiger from Model Factory in 1/16th scale. If I can get a tank for a reasonable price already made, I won't 3D print it. It just takes too much time and effort for something that is already available in the marketplace. I would say most of us are in that boat. 3D printing is great for tanks in the fact you can print stuff the major manufacturers won't sell due to them being a niche tank. The Tiger I is not a niche tank and I think everyone has one except me.

3D tank designers in 1/16th scale either use Heng Long parts or they don't. Not owning the plans for that tank, I have no idea what the internal layout looks like. Some of the designers like Warprints favor 370 motor based planetary gearboxes and some designers like Inkor favor integrating the HL gearboxes. It all depends on how the tank interior is designed. Because I have no idea what the interior would support, I wouldn't be able to recommend any parts for it.
I wish I took your advise, and bought one, but I was looking at a challenge. I thought they would be quite expensive. I know Frontline Hobbies had Tamiya for $1300 https://www.frontlinehobbies.com.au/tam ... function-o One thing about living in Australia, is our lousy currency exchange, and the price of shipping (especially if local). I 3d printed the gearboxes, and last steps were putting them inside. That's when I discovered the motor not fitting.
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Re: 1/16th Tiger Motors

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Tamiya 1/16 tanks are quite steep, and I have noticed that RCTW folks who have them fairly often switch out the Tamiya electronics for good aftermarket ones. I find the 1300 Aus. a bit steep, and here in the U.S. they are not less expensive if available. (The only 1/16 Tamiya tank I have is a static Königstiger kit I bought over ten years ago). You are in the middle of the project now, so having accomplished so much so far, I say "go on!"
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