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Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:19 pm
by BarryC
Son of a gun-ner wrote:
Biasphere1 wrote:The VC Fireflies were the longer body M4 , don't forget that.
The M4A4 also had an extended chassis, 63 and 3/8 inches* between bogie centres (1.61 meters) 100mm is close enough in 1/16th scale.
* I measured this myself :D
Yep! 100mm is what I used.

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Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:16 am
by Estnische
A bit late to reply, but here are some parked up Shermans with duckbills - I presume May 1945.

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Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:19 pm
by Exhibitedbrute
Dickbills were non Sherman specific and were used by British and American forces, as earlier posted they were closely associated with winter or boggy conditions there for more terrain dependant than tank dependent

Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:39 am
by Estnische
Exhibitedbrute wrote:Dickbills were non Sherman specific and were used by British and American forces
Yes - and duckbills too...



(Sorry - I couldn't resist)

Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:42 am
by Son of a gun-ner
Estnische wrote:
Exhibitedbrute wrote:Dickbills were non Sherman specific and were used by British and American forces
Yes - and duckbills too...



(Sorry - I couldn't resist)
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Resistance is futile.

You beat me to it :thumbup:

Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:01 am
by STHV
jhamm wrote:You be in error...
"Ostketten" and "Winterketten" are one and the same thing.
Ostketten and Winterketten are two separate track types winterketten being designed in 1942 for the winter of the Eastern front, it was for all intents and purposes just the standard track with very long extensions added to the casting, the crews hated it because the extensions would break off very easily and frankly it looks pretty ridiculous most of the time too a bit like the Sherman with the extremely long duckbill prototype tracks

Ostketten is from 1944 and looks like mini late type Tiger tracks or mid type Panther tracks, they were far sturdier and a much better design overall and no doubt did not help with the whole Panzer IV/Tiger mis-identification

Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:25 am
by HERMAN BIX

Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:37 am
by HERMAN BIX
winterketten

Ostketten

Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:40 am
by HERMAN BIX

Re: Duckbill tracks on Shermans and Fireflies

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:30 pm
by Marco Peter
jhamm wrote:You be in error...
"Ostketten" and "Winterketten" are one and the same thing.
Then why did I spend so much real money to buy both in 1:1 hahaha! ;-)