

NNoooooooo lets not go there , get that idea well out of our heads , la la la la la la .Herr Dr. Professor wrote:First there was Tank of the Month. Then the heart-wrenching Pup of the Month. Now for the first time allowed on screen: Mother-in-Law of the Month.
Neatly appropriated!. Unless I've read this wrongly, it looks like the 17-Pounder really did outperform the 88mm. Accuracy probably wasn't as great. I found that the cut-down, de-tuned 17-Pounder in the Comet was more accurate than the 17-Pounder itself.Jarlath wrote:Stolen and extrapolated from the Wiki's43rdRecceReg wrote:I read recently, that with APDS rounds, the 17-Pounder was even more deadly; and that it possessed an even greater penetration potential than the vaunted 88mm Tiger 1 gun.
88 X 571R MM from 8.8cm KWK 36 L56 (4.92m barrel/56 Calibres)
Range/Penetration on 30d slope/Penetration Percentage
APCBC (Armour-piercing, capped, ballistic cap) 773m/s muzzle velocityAPCR (Armour-piercing, composite rigid) Aka Tungsten Core, 930m/s muzzle velocity
- 100m / 132mm pen / 100%
- 500m / 110mm pen / 100%
- 1000m / 99mm pen / 100%
- 2000m / 83mm pen / 87%
76.2 X 583R MM from Ord QF 17 pdr (4.19m barrel/55 calibres)
- 100m / 171mm pen /100%
- 500m / 156mm pen / 100%
- 1000m / 138mm pen / 99%
- 2000m / 110mm pen / 71%
Range/Penetration on flat with 50% Penetration Percentage
APCBC (Armour-piercing, capped, ballistic cap) 884m/s muzzle velocityAPDS (Armour-piercing, discarding sabot) 1204m/s muzzle velocity
- 100m / 174mm pen
- 500m / 163mm pen
- 1000m / 150mm pen
- 2000m / 126mm pen
Note the difference in how the Germans vs the British/USA list penetration figures. Actual percentage penetrations on sloped armour vs 50% on vertical surfaces.
- 100m / 275mm pen
- 500m / 256mm pen
- 1000m / 233mm pen
- 2000m / 194mm pen
If you want to see Sherman 75-76mm effectiveness look at Page 22 of https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/1045347.pdf
Panthers were nearly invulnerable from the front
Captain Hilts wrote:NNoooooooo lets not go there , get that idea well out of our heads , la la la la la la .Herr Dr. Professor wrote:First there was Tank of the Month. Then the heart-wrenching Pup of the Month. Now for the first time allowed on screen: Mother-in-Law of the Month.
Perhaps folk have been too quick to write the Piat, or, Projector Infantry Anti-Tank- offEAO wrote:43rdRR,
Great little video! What made me cringe about the story, was the poor Tommy's going against the Panzer's with their PIATs. Now there's a job I'd not want!![]()
Let's not get started with Mother In Law's. I bet I have you all beat! Mine is not of this Earth!![]()
Cheers,
Eric.