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Re: Rare pic of WW2 model Elefant/Ferdinand
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:01 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
Thanks for chipping in, lads. I'm still looking for the elusive pic of tank models being inspected by German top brass ( I think one was of the Tiger 1) but, in looking, I chanced upon this wooden prototype of the VK3002 by Daimler-Benz(BD). It looks as if a model of the T34 has rolled, by accident onto the drawing board, displacing the model By MAN that actually won the design competition.

Re: Rare pic of WW2 model Elefant/Ferdinand
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:20 pm
by Max-U52
jarndice wrote:Max-U52 wrote:Now that I think about it, I recall that 1/16 is equal to 120 mm. Can anyone explain the hundred and twenty mm to me, what is that in reference to?
MM = Millimetres
CM = Centimetres
M = Metres
Km = Kilometre
10 mm = one cm
100 CM = one metre
1,000 M = one Kilometre
2mm = 1/16 inch ish
2.5 CM = 1 inch
1 Metre = 3 feet 3 inches
100 mm + 20mm = 120mm
100 mm = 10 cm
20mm = 2 cm
10cm + 2 cm = 12 cm
12 CM = 4 inches.
Now tell me something I don't know, smart aleck.
And 12 CM is 4.72 in, closer to 5 in than 4.
Re: Rare pic of WW2 model Elefant/Ferdinand
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:20 pm
by Max-U52
silversurfer1947 wrote:I used to make/collect Napoleonic figures. The main scale was always referred to as 54mm. It was supposed to be the height of the figure without any head covering. If you took the scale to be 1/32, this would give you a height of 1.73m or just over 5ft 8 inches, about right for the period. 120mm is the usual stated size on Verlinden figures. This really equate to 1/15 scale and a reasonably tall one, equating to 1.80m or 5ft 11 inches. If you take it a 1/16 the figure would be 1.92m or 6ft 3 and a hallf inches.
I hope that helps.
Thank you. So if I understand this right, it's just the height of the figure with no hat? It doesn't really have anything to do with scale, it's just the actual size of the toy figure?
Re: Rare pic of WW2 model Elefant/Ferdinand
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:31 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
Max-U52 wrote:As for scale, we're all used to seeing scales in fractions, is there a different system when you use the metric system? I'm sure one of you guys can Enlighten an ignorant old man.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that 1/32 scale is equal to 54 mm scale, but I don't understand what the 54 mm means. Is that 54 mm compared to 1 M, or what?
Sadly some people wrongly say 54mm is 1/32nd scale, when 1/32nd scale is nearer 58mm. When scale is mentioned in millimetres, it's the height of a 6 foot tall figure. This started with war gaming figures, they'd game with different sized figures, from 1/4 inch up to 2 1/8 inch (54mm), it's just the metric equivalent to the old imperial figure sizes. And a 1/32nd figure is 2 1/4 inches tall.
As for bigger figures, they kept that war gaming theme by giving the figures a height, hence 120mm figures, but 120mm figures are nearer 1/15th scale, they are NOT 1/16th scale. 1/16 scale are 114.3mm (4 1/2 inch).
As for metric to English.
1 inch is 25.4mm and 120mm is NOT 4 inches Shaun, 4 inches is four times 25.4mm, which is 101.6mm.
Re: Rare pic of WW2 model Elefant/Ferdinand
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:57 pm
by jarndice
Give me a break, Its Sunday afternoon after a heavy lunch followed by celebrating what men sometimes get right, In my case twice, So its doubles all round.

Re: Rare pic of WW2 model Elefant/Ferdinand
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:29 pm
by Max-U52
Thanks, Mick, I get it now.

Re: Rare pic of WW2 model Elefant/Ferdinand
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:27 am
by 43rdRecceReg
Re: Rare pic of WW2 model Elefant/Ferdinand
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:35 am
by 43rdRecceReg
Pity this craftsman doesn't do WW2 era tank prototypes .
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 ... 6801_6.htm
Meantime, I'm still hunting for maquettes made in the War years...

Re: Rare pic of WW2 model Elefant/Ferdinand
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:52 am
by 43rdRecceReg

I found a pic of this wooden mock-up of the proposed Skoda T-25. had it been built, it would have looked like this:
Both pics are from the tanks-encyclopedia.com ... one of the best tank sites out there.
This would make an interesting build project, perhaps using the T-34 as a donor.