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Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:45 am
by swathdiver
It's a shame to see this happening, Communists and Islamo-Nazis running amok in what used to be a free, God-fearing society.  Our Commies are running amok too right now.  There's a difference however, we're standing up finally and fighting back!

Liberty over Tyranny! 

Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:16 pm
by wibblywobbly
One thing is becoming apparent, and its only the internet that is making it obvious. There is a globally co-ordinated plan to control each and every one of us. Fear is the tool used most frequently, as this is an excellent means by which to make the gullible dependent on their government. Never forget the words spoken at the Nuremberg trials:

Herman Goering said, at the Nuremburg Trials "Why of course the people don't want war, but after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a communist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a fascist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. You just have to tell them that they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for a lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger"

....Better to go through life wanting something you dont have, than having something you dont want.

@Happytanker..Jesus! I cannot believe that they did that to you, it is insane.

Rob G

Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:27 pm
by happytanker
i know but believe it or not that was only one of the lesser ridicularities of the whole affair! they used that as a foothold but then to save themselves from the embarrasment of admitting they had made a mistake they started digging into other things that were nothing to do with anything and twisting it to their own ends to make us look bad! one example being that they made a check on our food cupboards and saw that they were fully stocked and then accused us of starving our kids and when i brouight up the fact that they themselves had checked our supplies i was told that the children were not eating it and implied that my wife and i had eaten approx £140.00 worth of food between us in 1 week! figure that one out if you will!

Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:46 pm
by grim_marmazet
Orwell would be shocked to see how right he got it!  >:( All our major civil liberties have been removed or altered beyond recognition in the last 12 years.
The right to free speech, right to protest, the bans on torture, the right to critizise our government, the right to habeus corpus, all destroyed by various "anti-terrorism" acts. The labour government has done more to destroy this country than any terrorist organization. Sadly they've done exactly what the terrorist wanted, and altered our society and culture beyond anything recognisable. This is no longer the country our grandfathers and great-grandfathers fought to protect.

As Benjamin Franklin once said;
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

And this is no more true than in todays society.

Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:51 am
by Saxondog
To much government,to little oversight of the government,If they want to video something let's start with all the closed door meetings by people who have forgotten that they are only civil servants not the great elite statsmen that they pretend.Today MS.NANCY PELOSI HAD A AMENDMENT TO A BILL FOR THREE NEW JETS BECAUSE SHE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO FLY ANYWHERE WITHOUT WAITING.They are only 16'000'000 us each.I say we need an amendment to the constitution,all elected civil servants ride grayhound,or pay for it themselves.Too much these people have taken from us,to little have they given back.This country is at a crossroads,we need to get back to a government by the people for the people.Every aspect of their lives should be open to the people,a national network of politician watching,every dime the get or spend should be open to the public.It's always the same,they get elected then within a year the are millionairs,how is this not reported by the state run media.Answer because it truly is state run media. A government should fear the people,the people should not fear the government.You guy's know where this statement comes from and how simply true it should be. 1-Saxondog

Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:37 am
by swathdiver
Saxondog join the Tea Parties or the 912 groups!  I belong to all of them.  Today our President declared war on American citizens.  He's mobilized and sicced his union thugs and marxist community agitators on us at the town hall meetings over health care!  Another civil war has begun!

My brothers in Great Britain, fight back!  Don't let them turn your country into one dominated by Muslims.  Before you know it your children will be forced to convert to Islam or beheaded.  Fight back!

Socialism in any form is immoral and evil.

Ok, tanks, man I haven't been able to play with mine in quite some time!  Did some work on the Sherman Project but with the economy worldwide heading into the toilet, the schedule may very likely be extended until things pick up.  Nothing official yet though.  Still waiting for the first one!

Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:49 am
by grim_marmazet
What did Obama say about Healthcare? Isn't it about time you guys adopted universal healthcare? Due to the massive price of insurance policies, 18% of your population go without even basic healthcare. Im glad to live in a country with free healthcare for all. The NHS, while not perfect, is a proven system where medical knowledge and treatment is done for its own, and the patients sake, not for profit. Your pharmaceutical companies spend more on advertising than they do on product development.

While im not Muslim, I do find your comments about them a bit offensive. Not all muslim nations force there populations to convert, or behead people. Infact the Islamic culture, was one of peace and highly scientific for centuries, while christian nations were killing anyone who wasn't christian. Always remember, more people have been killed in Christs name than in Allah's.

In case you cant tell im a devout Atheist, as personally I feel all organised religion is a drain on humanity, and will probably cause our untimely end.

I will agree with you swathdiver that National Socialism is evil. But the fundemental tenants of a socialistic, not communist, society would provide for everyone and leave no-one out. Infact Marx in the end envisioned a society where everyone helped everyone else, there was no longer any need for a centralised government.

I dont mean to offend you or anyone else, it is mearly my opinion based on facts as I know it.
Cheers,
Rik

Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:33 pm
by Crispy
"My brothers in Great Britain, fight back!  Don't let them turn our country into one dominated by Muslims.  Before you know it your children will be forced to convert to Islam or beheaded.  Fight back!"

Hmmm... you know, you sound a lot like a little National Socialist fella I've seen on TV and read about in books. Didn't he encourage this same form of racial hatred, blaming all societies ill's on just one race of people? I seem to remember that after the first few years it didn't turn out so well for him.

Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:02 pm
by Woz
grim_marmazet wrote:
While im not Muslim, I do find your comments about them a bit offensive. Not all muslim nations force there populations to convert, or behead people. Infact the Islamic culture, was one of peace and highly scientific for centuries, while christian nations were killing anyone who wasn't christian. Always remember, more people have been killed in Christs name than in Allah's.
Not many people know that the Muslims launched their own Crusades outside of Arabia two years after Muhammad’s death of a fever in AD 632. This was several centuries before the Europeans started their "Christian" crusade. Not all Muslims or Christians want to convert other populations to their faith but unfortunatly some  do, and they seem to have the loudest voices.

Re: Britain Monitoring Families Inside Their Homes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:53 pm
by bowlman
Here is an update to this story from Wired.com . go to bottom and read the Update .

As an ex-Brit, I’m well aware of the authorities’ love of surveillance and snooping, but even I, a pessimistic cynic, am amazed by the governments latest plan: to install Orwell’s telescreens in 20,000 homes.

£400 million ($668 million) will be spend on installing and monitoring CCTV cameras in the homes of private citizens. Why? To make sure the kids are doing their homework, going to bed early and eating their vegetables. The scheme has, astonishingly, already been running in 2,000 family homes. The government’s “children’s secretaryâ€