Cost of tanking

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Re: Cost of tanking

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Raminator wrote:The biggest problem I have with Tamiya models is that I'd be afraid to modify them, given the price point. It's all well and good if you want to make the particular tank the kit offers, but I wouldn't hack apart a >$1000 tank to build an SU-152 or Nashorn.
After my recent induction into the realm of Tamiya extravagance, Dan and Shaun, I'd have to agree with you. After each purchase I've had to impose my own 'austerity' measures on myself to cope with the financial hole
buying one creates. :problem: :lolno:
The temptation to go 'off piste' with one (to employ a topical metaphor :D ), disappears rapidly when the bills come in. Tarting up an Asiatam, or creating a Frankentank is one thing; but doing anything risky with one of these fragile semi-shelf queens is quite another. In the UK, three Tamiya models now overtop the £1000 marker with ease (an average of available prices). Others are now clanking nearer that scary financial summit. Thus, the tendency to build one 'by the book' and play with one wearing (metaphorical-) kid gloves is very strong. :problem:
Many on RCU have observed that Tamiya models can be durable and perform well in tank-on-tank shootups. But burning out a DMD unit could set you back £200, or more. Other parts aren't cheap nor easy to access, either, as I've discovered in my 'build-a-Tamiya Pz IV- from- spares project'. :shh:
It's a joy building a Tamiya, I'd say..and they look terrific, but performing serious surgery on one or hybridising one could seriously impact on it's value as a collector's item. If money's no object, and they're not seen as heirlooms for one's 'needy' offspring, then by all means get the old scalpel out along with the modeller's 'botox' treatments. :D
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If you want a Tamiya look at the second hand market.

I have two second hand Tamiya's and all they really need is some more detail and a good paint job.

I would rather spend £300 on a second hand one than upgrade a HL to the same standard but that's just me.
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I agree with Adam, people will be sick of me saying it but at the current prices you can't beat a second hand tamiya for value! There are bargains to be had on occasion.
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As many of you know I IR battle my tanks a lot. So I tend not to look at Tamiya as I like to have a lot of tanks around and unique stuff so kit bashing a Tamiya is not a great idea! LOL! But here is an example of pricing to make a battle worthy tank that could play with us no problem. (U.S. dollars)

Base HL tank $150 (can be had cheaper depending on model. If you look for one disabled like the gears are stripped I have picked them up as cheap as $25 bucks)
GOOD metal gearboxes. Not that zinc crap and with bearings $50
Metal tracks, sprockets, idlers $100
Better battery $25
Clark board $100
Apple $20 ( I use Tamiya apple so a one time investment $100 but is good to switch from tank to tank)
Servo recoil $30
Smoker $30
Upgrade speaker $15
Odds and ends like resin for lower hull, styrene for bracing, magnets, TBU mount, etc.. $40
Total $560
Now, if you need a cheap radio add to it $50

Now the pricing above doesn't really take into account if you really went after deals. For example I have picked up an HL Sherman for $25, metal tracks, sprockets, idlers for $50, etc... but wanted to be realistic. There is also the method of building up a tank using the best of all the makers for example Taigen lower hull with their nice gearboxes, HL upper, after market board (Clark, IBU, ElMod, etc..) and Tamiya apple and IR emitter

I rarely see complete full option Tamiyas come up used that are that greatly reduced in price over here but maybe that's just me... :-)
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Like Dean, I don't often see full-option fully assembled Tamiyas on Ebay and elsewhere. When I have, they tend to command sizeable price tags. Take the the Tamiya Gepard, for example. Someone wants £650 for that on Ebay. Adam was lucky find such a top quality Jagdpanther, although we don't know what price it went for. Maybe I don't look in the right places. :think:
I expect the Tamiya Forum would be the first port of call for members there to offer their Tanks for sale. :)
I think secondhand (don't like 'pre-loved' :D ) tank prices on Ebay are inflated by the juxtapositioning of new kits with used gear. Punters probably think that if a Pz IV's worth £850 new, it must be worth over £500 in a used state.. Just a thought.
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I'd say a decent Tamiya is worth half what the new price is.

I know some have got a tamiya tiger for £100 before but you need to look for wrong listings or mistakes.

The jagdpanther is a great case of bad paint, nice tank.
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The rule of thumb second hand tamiya prices I usually work to are:

Tiger £200-250
Sherman £200-250
Pershing £200-300
King tiger £220-270
Panther £300-350
Jagdpanther £300-400
Panzer IV £400-450
Leopard 2 £300+
Others don't really come up enough for a representative sample.
Prices are for a fairly tidy stock build with basic paint job
You often see various tamiyas for more but you keep seeing them because they generally don't sell.

Mislabeled auctions are always good (got 4 tamiyas, couple taigens and a Henglong for £500 once that were labled as Henglong), used tamiya markets always been a bit weak unless it's a nice example, when I started in 2010 I considered getting a king tiger for £300 a decent score, prices have fluctuated since then but the average has been down.
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Next time you find a Panther with complete electronics and functional for 300 pounds let me know please Tom! :D
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dgsselkirk wrote:Next time you find a Panther with complete electronics and functional for 300 pounds let me know please Tom! :D
There was a new one (had the 2.4 tamiya radio) for £260 which was relisted several times!

I sold one for £350 not long ago
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Good afternoon,
Is this British Ebay? I've been looking for a Tamiya Jagdpanther lately. Nothing urgent but I would like a place to keep an eye open on.
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