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Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 5:09 pm
by FireflyKeith
Yep same here i could'nt find any pics of the Panzer III with zimmerit on, but their are plenty of Stug III pics with it.
Keith

Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:14 pm
by Dragon245
Thanks guys for all the input. What i was trying to do was add an odd hull skirt plate to my panzer III, just for a little contrast, and the zimmerit would give it a little texture, oh well back to square 2, go just for a different colour scheme

Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:22 pm
by FireflyKeith
You could always add a bit of folige on the Schurzen like in the above picture to give it some detail
Keith

Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:53 am
by wargar
In "Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WW2" by Doyle Chamberlain, on page 68 there is a picture of Pz3's being surrendered in Norway at the end of the war. There are Aust J's and M's all with zimmerit and skirts. None of the skirts have zimmerit on. Intrestingly even on the same variants there are two ways the zimmerit is applied, some in the (what I call) squares and some in the lines.
Hope this helps,
Dave
Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:37 am
by FireflyKeith
Is this the picture you mean.
Keith

Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:45 pm
by wargar
Yep, thanks Keith. I'm useless with this internet thing, I can't upload the photos I want to post from my camera.
Dave
Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:43 pm
by 971wright
Hi If you want to add to schurzen punch the odd hole though it wit ha sharpe centre punch ,make look like its been hit with a AP.SHELL.leave the jagged back edge to show the burst though effect but be aware it will be very sharpe and you could end up with cuts on your fingers .
regards pete
Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:28 am
by Mackem
Rivetcounter wrote:
Andy, Panzer III was removed from service before Zimmerit came in to effect so there would be no reason to add it to Schutzen when the tanks where no longer in service.
The PzIII fought at Kursk (July 1943) and redeemed itself very well. While production of the PzIII had indeed ceased it was never withdrawn from service. After the battle of Kursk PzIII's were assigned to secondary combat roles.
Factory applied Zimmerit was introduced around August 1943 and applied to all frontline tanks, tank destroyers, and assault guns until September 1944. I can find no information on the application of zimmerit in the field or when it began, so realistically speaking, it is very possible that surviving PzIII's could have received a coat of zimmerit in the field.
Cheers
John
Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:02 pm
by Dragon245
Thanks for the numerous replies, lots of food for thought and some nice ideas agian thank all

Re: Panzer 3 schutzen plates
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:56 pm
by FireflyKeith
Just stumbled over this and thought of this thread.
Keith
