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Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:17 pm
by frankie
Lol I'm far from expert...I just don't think it's extended. It's a grainy photo but it still looks like an a2 engine deck to me, with the grill doors and filler caps on each side, you can't actually see the rear corner due to the stowage which I think is throwing the eye and you can't really make out the rear engine vents that the a4 had but a2 didn't...
Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:19 pm
by ALPHA
Here are more Pics of the New Zealand Brigade

Thing is ...when I look at the radio box in Can's photo...I can see the small covers on the top of it...like the ones in this photo

What's absent in Can's photo though...is the travel lock...reason I just guessed lol
ALPHA
PS...The firefly on the bottom...I just noticed...it's the short version

Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:25 pm
by frankie
..there not radio boxes like was fitted to the Firefly, they're just additional stowage boxes. The firefly had an armoured box added to the turret rear which opened into the crew compartment to house the radios to make more room in the turret for the gun...
Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:28 pm
by ALPHA
frankie wrote:Lol I'm far from expert...I just don't think it's extended. It's a grainy photo but it still looks like an a2 engine deck to me, with the grill doors and filler caps on each side, you can't actually see the rear corner due to the stowage which I think is throwing the eye and you can't really make out the rear engine vents that the a4 had but a2 didn't...
You are too modest Frankie....You are the True Guru of Shermanology ....I am just a peon in your presence

....It is a grainy photo...if only the gunner's hatch was viewable...that would be a good indicator of what it is
ALPHA
Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:30 pm
by ALPHA
frankie wrote:..there not radio boxes like was fitted to the Firefly, they're just additional stowage boxes. The firefly had an armoured box added to the turret rear which opened into the crew compartment to house the radios to make more room in the turret for the gun...
The more I look at Can's photo...the more it looks like the Shermans in the second photo...as no gunner's hatch can be seen...but again..that just a guess
ALPHA
Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:38 pm
by frankie
...and the ones in the second photo are a2 75mm's

Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:00 pm
by ALPHA
frankie wrote:...and the ones in the second photo are a2 75mm's

I bow to the Guru of Shermanology
ALPHA
Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:01 pm
by 971wright
Hi Watch this film They Were Not Divided (1950) it even has a late model Tiger in it.Then decide
regards pete
P.S. you can download it free just google it
Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:03 pm
by ALPHA
cannedheat wrote:think we can say its a a2 ......but there is a interesting pic mike put up of the firefly with a radial engine/ deck me thinks ?[bottom pic ] now there,s a thought
Think Frankie must have build one of those at one time ....but yeah...that radial cover didn't catch my attention right away either...noticed after I posted it...reason for the edit
ALPHA
Re: m4a?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:14 pm
by frankie
971wright wrote:Hi Watch this film They Were Not Divided (1950) it even has a late model Tiger in it.Then decide
regards pete
P.S. you can download it free just google it
..if the film is 1950, then they're probably using post war tanks. The Egyptians for instance were sold re-engined A4's with A2 engine decks which they used in Suez in '56...but they weren't around in ww2..
