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Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:20 pm
by Max-U52
Rob, you really put it all together in a nutshell, except one small item, and that's the Asp. I haven't tried the Elmod, but so far the Asp is the best airsoft board I've used. Phenomenal feature's, a stack on Juno board for sound with two SD cards, three speaker ports and truly excellent tank control. Also has all the features of the elmod, like it's connectable to your PC for updates so you don't have to return the board, and the support from RCTA is excellent.
I also have Clark Boards and several IBU2s, and like them both very much. To me it comes down to two factors - budget and space. It was obvious it would be quite a chore to get an IBU in my new Sherman so I went with Clark, but I did squeeze an IBU into my new Stug III. I think I can get an IBU in a PzIII but it may have clearance issues with turret rotation. I'll find out one of these days.
So my solution has been to get the best board I can afford at the time to fit in the space needed. Been lots of fun so far.
As for radios and being in Cambodia, can you mail order from Hobby King? They have lots of good transmitters for very good prices. Most of my clark and IBUs run on a $25US, 6 channel T6, and I also have a couple of the HK6S radios, along with a 9X and a 9XR Pro and even an i6. I have lots of videos of all this stuff at my youtube channel, here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH8MHc ... J6KcUvfflQ
If you're looking for specific info let me know because I also have a lot of unlisted videos.
Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:24 pm
by Roboticus_Prime
Max-U52 wrote:Rob, you really put it all together in a nutshell, except one small item, and that's the Asp. I haven't tried the Elmod, but so far the Asp is the best airsoft board I've used. Phenomenal feature's, a stack on Juno board for sound with two SD cards, three speaker ports and truly excellent tank control. Also has all the features of the elmod, like it's connectable to your PC for updates so you don't have to return the board, and the support from RCTA is excellent.
I also have Clark Boards and several IBU2s, and like them both very much. To me it comes down to two factors - budget and space. It was obvious it would be quite a chore to get an IBU in my new Sherman so I went with Clark, but I did squeeze an IBU into my new Stug III. I think I can get an IBU in a PzIII but it may have clearance issues with turret rotation. I'll find out one of these days.
So my solution has been to get the best board I can afford at the time to fit in the space needed. Been lots of fun so far.
As for radios and being in Cambodia, can you mail order from Hobby King? They have lots of good transmitters for very good prices. Most of my clark and IBUs run on a $25US, 6 channel T6, and I also have a couple of the HK6S radios, along with a 9X and a 9XR Pro and even an i6. I have lots of videos of all this stuff at my youtube channel, here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH8MHc ... J6KcUvfflQ
If you're looking for specific info let me know because I also have a lot of unlisted videos.
I have a question! What's the PC interface like for the Asp?
Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:24 pm
by MichaelC
SteelBird wrote:Hi Wibbly,
Does this work with Clark electric? I found it on TowerHobbies.com; however, it's a 6 channels 2.4Ghz and it is designed for aircraft. Can we use it for tanks?
Clark basically will work with any 4 channel radios, the only problem is that you might want to consider adding a self center gimble so that you don't have a run away tank when you power up, but it is just a more of a awareness thing (i.e. if you are a flyer you know throttle should be down when you power up). Here is the suggestions from Clark:
Q: Which RC system can works with TK board:
A: Basically, TK can work with all kind of aftermarket RC system as long as it's PWM system, here is a table list most popular one.
Link to Clark site:
http://www.clark-model.com/eng/prod_rx20/index.html
Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:28 pm
by jarndice
STEELBIRD,Hi, I think about 80% of 2.4 digital radio transmitters are built for Aircraft and I can only think of two that are built for Tanks, HENG LONG and TAIGEN,
Which leaves us with two choices,
Buy a transmitter with ready downloaded software specific to TANKS, or do it yourself,
The Tank specific Transmitters that I know of are the HENG LONG/TAIGEN analogue (CRYSTAL)27mHz and the HENG LONG/TAIGEN Digital 2.4 GHz,
But these have a down side and that is that these are not programmable so you can only use one transmitter per Tank whereas a Programmable transmitter can be programmed to be used to run as many as 10 Tanks,(NOT AT THE SAME TIME

).
There is a lot more to say and know about 2.4 digital transmitters,
Most of the information is on the Forum if you search it out.
shaun.
Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:56 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
I'm a Mac user too, Paul. You can use an emulator package such as 'Parallels' and 'VMware', and these temporarily transform your lovely Mac into a hideous PC: a sort of digital Jekyll and Hyde situation. It also entails buying a legitimate copy of windows, and I'd rather have my remaining teeth pulled out than do that!...
Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:06 pm
by wibblywobbly
As far as Elmod and an OS is concerned, it is designed to work with Windows or a MAC. I did have it running on Linuxmint, but following updates to the OS itself, Wine (the 'emulator'), Winetricks (an add on tool), and Java I gave up on getting it running on Linux again. I simply installed my original Windows Vista OS onto my cream crackered Acer laptop, I can dual boot that into Linux or Vista.
The screenshots for the tank parameters are in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17673&start=20
How to make an apple/ir is here
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17744
Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:13 am
by deathrawt
I use that same tactic 650 with my tanks equipped with ibu boards and I have no issues, it's a great radio and you can use it for multiple tanks. Just be sure you buy a reciever as it doesn't come with one. Receivers are reasonably priced too. I am not a fan of hobby king, remember that you get what you pay for
Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:37 am
by SteelBird
jarndice wrote:STEELBIRD,Hi, I think about 80% of 2.4 digital radio transmitters are built for Aircraft and I can only think of two that are built for Tanks, HENG LONG and TAIGEN,
Which leaves us with two choices,
Buy a transmitter with ready downloaded software specific to TANKS, or do it yourself,
The Tank specific Transmitters that I know of are the HENG LONG/TAIGEN analogue (CRYSTAL)27mHz and the HENG LONG/TAIGEN Digital 2.4 GHz,
But these have a down side and that is that these are not programmable so you can only use one transmitter per Tank whereas a Programmable transmitter can be programmed to be used to run as many as 10 Tanks,(NOT AT THE SAME TIME

).
There is a lot more to say and know about 2.4 digital transmitters,
Most of the information is on the Forum if you search it out.
shaun.
Just out of curious, so what is Tamiya's remote controller out of the box? Do you have to upgrade remote controller after buying a Tamiya tank?
I contacted a guy from Thailand who has quite a lot of nice video on YouTube and some cool modification on his Facebook page. The page is called RC Tank Modified. What I love the most is his drive shaft supports which seal off the big holes of HL's tanks thus may stop sand into the hull. He offers me retail price which is similar to retail price in Cambodia. Not cheap but acceptable.
Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:57 am
by MichaelC
Tamiya ships with a re-batch Futaba 4 channel radio if you purchase the full option with radio/receiver.
Tamiya:

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Futaba:

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Just a side note, Clark is from Taiwan so maybe they will ship to you ? Otherwise I can also try to ship you one from here. We buy bulk from them for our tank club.
MichaelC.
Re: CLARK electric compared to stock Heng Long
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:24 am
by wibblywobbly
Just to explain about transmitters.
The old transmitters use 27mhz. They use crystals. The old ones that use crystals lock the transmitter crystal to the receiver crystal. If you are using a crystal with a given frequency, then no one else can operate in the same area with the same pair of crystals as otherwise your transmitters will control each others tanks. They are fading out of general use.
72mhz is reserved for RC aircraft. In the UK it is illegal to use them for ground based vehicles.
2.4ghz are the current up to date ones. These bind a receiver to the transmitter. You can bind multiple receivers to one transmitter. Any receiver that you bind to your transmitter will not be affected by anyone else's transmitter. You bind a receiver to the transmitter once when you install it. It stays bound until you bind it to a different transmitter.Binding is just pressing a button and all transmitters come with simple instruction on how to do it.
Many transmitters contain the same internals, all made by the same factory, but with different casings and sold under different brand names. If you look at a few on Google you will see identical stick and switch layouts but different case shapes and badges. A simple 4 channel transmitter is all that you need to run a tank. The extra channels on a 6 channel transmitter are only needed if you want to make use of the novelty features that some boards have (voices etc).
I would add that Planet have stopped making transmitters. When current stocks are gone the supply of Planet receivers may dry up, though other receivers may work ok with them. It would be better to avoid them and buy a transmitter/receiver that you know that you can buy receivers for.
Also check the prices. Some transmitters are cheap but receivers are expensive. If you buy additional receivers it may cost you more.
For a tank it is better to have a transmitter with both sticks that self centre, and that also allows you to switch between mode 1 and mode 2. One mode controls the tank Tamiya style, the other controls the tank Heng Long style.
If you have a transmitter that has one stick that does not self centre, you can either buy a conversion kit (just a piece of plastic and a spring) or make one. I take the springs out of old HL transmitters and either cut a plate out of styrene or 3D print one.