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if its making basic and obvious alterations to the tank then its a very good idea and i,m up for that, but if it turns into a case of rivet-counting then i,m not too sure it,ll work.
but still it'll be a good source of reference material for us............

I frown on all rivet-counting so im with you on that oz, but like you say the basic and obvious alterations would be a good start.

so if we do this could we also show the guys how to correct it ?, a sort of what it looks like now how to correct it and the finished item, in pics if possible...... 

there are some who think they know far more than others and when they are wrong they are wrong what we don't want is people who are not as knowledgeable thinking inaccuracy's are right when they are in fact wrong but as you say you frown on all types of rivet-counting then why do you want to tell people that there mantle is the wrong way or there gun is to short surely this is also rivet-counting, making suggestions as to detail, painting, weathering or anything else is also rivet-counting, it depends on how the subject is approached, but then it may also depend on who is making the comment's...........sounds a bit clicky   

When I put my builds up I look for that cricisim (rivet counting). I want my tanks detailed as close to the real as possible. On the other forum swathdiver picked my Tiger1 142 build apart and to say if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have tried the the things I did to make it as it is. I learned new techniques and skills now to use on my Panther D. I am looking for rivet counting on that too!. Bottom line if you put your tank's picture and ask what do you think, well if  it looks good tell them. If you see something wrong, not something that doesn't suit your taste or just don't like it tell them. Most people who put their tank's pics up have already read the forum and should know what to expect. No one here is out to hurt someones feelings we just want to help!

A lot of it all depends on how the person gets their point across, what we are talking about here is helping new comers with little or no modelling skills to make the out of the box tank more realistic by doing simple inexpensive mods, (not my idea of rivet-counting), my idea of rivet-counting is when somebody skilled or not has put alot of time and effort into getting their tank to look better and then some prat comes along and says the colour is wrong for the year, they never used zimmerit it that year, you have the wrong suspension for that year and i even had once on another forum your commanders hatch would not be open at that angle (who gives a crap). Some of the above changes have already been covered in Tips & Tricks but it would be good to have them all together and easy to find.

FireflyKeith you are right, but I was a newbe. My Tiger1 142 was my first attempt to model a tank after a real one. I wanted that kind of help to get things as close as possible. I would not have learned the thing s i know now if it wasn't for those comments. Maybe we should ask what they are looking for before we comment. Out of the box runner, moderate up grades for better performance and reliability, or full on rivet counting.

I agree with keith, I'm all for having threads on detailing etc and people can then take what they want (if anything) from that. After thats been done I'm all for bullying and humiliating any newby until they cry, over the slightest infringment of accuracy!

Being serious, I wouldn't bother saying anything unless anyone asks specifically for comments. Some people can be quite brutal in thier assesments, not because they are nasty but they just don't know how to put across thier ideas in a sensitive manner and the one thing I like about this club is its informal, we have a laugh and we're all in it for one thing,to have fun.

Having said that we're a club with a wide range of modelling experience thats there to be used so if your happy to accept comments to improve your model, then great,go for it.

Personally, I like accuracy, but I'm an anal retentive (apparently) who can't help himself. If anyone else wants to post a pink and lime green tiger (shudder) with fozzy bear in the tank commanders hatch then kudos to him, I won't say a thing unless its asked for......then watch out for armageddon but in a luvvy feely kind of way.

I like to see you guys accuratly replicate a tank from history, i like watching the builds and seeing all your reference pics and info i think its great and i dont have a problem with it, my point is most people like yourself ask for help from these people who are a great source of reference when replicating a tank, but for the majority of people who just want to change the obvoius faults but are not bovvered about replicating a particular tank i think it is wrong for people to comment, i do think it would be nice tho to have the information discussed above on hand for people.

You are right. Find out what they are looking for when they post. Don't just go and hit them with both barrels assuming that is what they are looking for.