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Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:58 pm
by jtracks
Kiaser wrote:Thanks jtracks
As you suggested I have 2 on the way just a quick question have you opened them up to see internal construction ? And just roughly how big is the metal box with fan ? .
What is your opinion and advise to what rc tanks will fit this unit maybe as a idea for everyone so they do not make to many errors with there wallets to be disappointed and give up due to failure , fire or both and a range of costs to work within everyone's budget .
So v3 works with addition of y cables for channel CH1 and CH2 for tamiya leo .
TARRmk 1 metal box version as suggested by jtracks HL,Tamiya 1/16 and exact selected model this will fit .
It seems metal is the way to go I'm coming to the conclusion that making things cheap in terms of plastic ABS or PVC seems to be in hind sight a huge error I understand blah blah , to keep costs down
But seriously as you all can appreciate I value my tanks and I guess the same for many the amount of time and effort everybody contributes to creating them for the sake of keeping costs down for smoke really doesn't make any sense if you want smoke then it should not be of a material that can melt or catch fire ? , FAIL yes
!! , it is a recipe for disaster eg , "Giving a child matches to play with and saying it is okay it is safe ".
So I gather for ww2 tanks etc this would be a excellent fit for these brands eg H/L , Taigen,Tamiya
Just getting inputs and making informed choice for the right model rc as some fit and others do not which would be the case for tamiya leopard not much room in there so i am hoping to come up with suggestions and rc variants from your vast knowledge and expertise for the sake of those out there not familiar with this area and are contemplating having a go at upgrading .
nice video Jtracks
Yes, what's inside the box is a resistor, or heating coil if you will. There is a large piece of what looks to be cotton that lays on the bottom of the box. Attached to the resister is a wick. It looks like a small version of an oil lamp wick. Here are the tanks that I am using them in. Torro King Tiger, 2x Taigen Tiger 1 and a Taigen Pershing. There is plenty of room in the above tanks for the Tarr MK I. I tried fitting them to a Torro KV-2 and a Taigen T-34/85. The T-34 is doable but I need to re-arrange the out put plumbing similar to what the stock smoker has but just haven't been to the hobby shop to find some suitable tubing. The KV-2 will need a little engineering due to the fact the smoker needs to be mounted in the hardware for the quick release system. A possible remedy for that would be to remove the quick release system and use magnets to hold the upper hull to the bottom hull. I measure the MK I smoker at 37.5mm wide 51.96mm long and 41.17mm tall, including the fan.
Joe
Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:03 pm
by jtracks
Kiaser wrote:Excellent jtracks
Your input is needed and much appreciated I was looking in this also same set up wick type it has three wicks ?. Interesting .
So what is the battery type setup , time and length of use before refill and or runtime ?
I will fit your set up in tiger 1 I'm running 5800 mah 2s so it should be fine .
Also waiting on the graupners from Billpe suggestion now we can give them a running reliability test .
Kiaser, there is only one wick. I use a 4200 mah 2 cell lipo for the tank, it gives about an hour and 15 minutes run time. Refill on the smoker is right at an hour. That's with an eye dropper full of JT's Mega Steam smoke fluid.
Joe
Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:34 pm
by Silverstalker
sooooo what am I buying
is there a final shopping list to get tanks to smoke for good!
Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:08 pm
by mike1268
Silverstalker wrote:sooooo what am I buying
is there a final shopping list to get tanks to smoke for good!
I was thinking that. What was the conclusion to this. which is the best model to go for?
Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:08 pm
by mike1268
Hows the size looking so far? Smallest tank i have is the Stug. It has a HL smoker in at the mo, do you think these will take up more space?
Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:34 pm
by jackalope
I have to put it out there that I ordered 2 of the TARR mark II smokers which are just like the mark I's but with a plastic box not metal. The mark I's were sold out when I went to order mine so I figured what the heck and ordered the mark II's.
When connected to the Taigen board they didn't do much because the board can not control the smoker proportionally. I left the smokers alone until I got my IBU2 set up from Tankbear and installed it WOW this thing works like a champ!!
I've run the tank through 6 refills of smoke fluid which I use Mega Steam fluid and have checked the inside of the smoker and there is no sign of any damage like I had on the Super Smoker the plastic of the TARR smoker SEEMS to be able to hold up to the heat with no issues.
I will report back with more information about the TARR mark II once I get some more run time but so far so good.
Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:19 pm
by edpanzer
Can I be the first to stick up for the new heng long /Taigen clear smoker mine works well with super smoker fluid and you can see it outside in the sun as well
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160378814913? ... EBIDX%3AIT
Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:32 pm
by jackalope
Kiaser, sorry I have no way to tell you that as I have no experience with the Stug. Same thing with the mark I because I do not have one myself to compare it to. I'll get some measurements up tomorrow if you like.
Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:34 pm
by mike1268
Nice one. Looking forward to the results (hoping for some your tube fottage :p ) I've saved some room in my Stug to fit a new smoker.
Re: Smoker comments
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:07 pm
by jackalope
I have the TARR mark II's and they are the same thing as the MARK I just with a plastic box instead of metal and just like the Burn Effect smoker I haven't been able to hurt it. Honestly its not like I tried THAT hard though, ran it low a couple times, ran it till the smoke stopped coming out and gave it a few minutes with no smoke then shut it off. You could see where the wick had got HOT but it wasn't burned through and the plastic box was undamaged. This can not be said for the Super Smoker which went up in flames when it still had smoke fluid in it! IMHO the TARR smokers are the way to go for good smoke and reliable service without fire.