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Re: smokers

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:15 pm
by edpanzer
Oh Dietrich my friend I'm already hooked :haha: and they do lots of nice flavours....try the red bull flavour oil it will give your tank wings 8)

Re: smokers

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:26 pm
by strmnd54
I like Panzer IV # 413...Those are the videos I used to create the sound files for my TBS mini...

You want to see a Panzer IV smoking; take a look at that video:http://youtu.be/7rZuURtYpHM

I also like the close-ups of different parts of the Panzer IV...Too bad I don't understand the language... :(

Re: smokers

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:41 pm
by jackalope
On a cold day any engine be it diesel, gas, carburetor or fuel injected you most certainly will get exhaust smoke especially when you throttle up. Remember these tanks didn't have catalitic converters nor did they meet any emissions standards, hell back then there were no emissions standards to meet! Even today's modern tanks do put out exhaust smoke when throttled up, I know I went throught basic training in Fort Knox in the winter with M1's aND Bradley's and they'd smoke like a fright train on throttling up or going up a hill. This isn't u tube knowledge this is first hand I seen it with my own eyes knowledge.

Re: smokers

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:04 pm
by tanker 242
hi guys I used to be on abbot s,p ,guns & they used to smoke when reved up , & german tanks where petrol that's why in the Russian winter german tank engines froze up ,tanker 242

Re: smokers

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:17 pm
by Lord Haw-Haw
jarndice wrote: That allied vehicle mechanics when confronted with a 12 cylinder fuel injected Tiger 1/2 assumed they must be diesel
??? They used Solex 52JFF carburettors.

Here's some e-cig stuff http://www.fasttech.com/category/3099/e-cigarettes Maybe this will help you guys with some ideals. I buy my laser stuff from here, lately the e-cig stuff taken over the site.

Re: smokers

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:44 pm
by Dietrich
Hi tanker 242,
I think that the Diesel fuel is more likely to freeze that the petrol.. It was the lubricants that froze...the reason that the German tanks froze up was it was a LOT colder than they were prepared for! .
Even in England comparatively mild climate, winter diesel fuel is a different 'mixture' than summer diesel fuel. It has to have additives to prevent the fuel from 'waxing up' in the cold.
Diesels Gel Point (where it forms waxes and becomes useless in the fuel lines) is only -8.1 degrees C..... winter diesel is -15 to -22 degrees C

Re: smokers

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:43 pm
by tanker 242
thanks dietrich, I didn't know that ,I was just going by what I heard on documentarys about the german winter campaign in Russia,wich apparently can get down to well below -30 to 40 degrees zero , I do know that the gun grease aperently froze & it was said some soldiers resorted to weeing on wepons & things to un freeze them ,[ iff it didn't freeze their watsits off in the prosess lol] tanker 242.

Re: smokers

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:45 pm
by tanker 242
ment gun oil not grease,tanker 242

Re: smokers

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:27 am
by jackalope
Don't forget the mud would freeze so bad over night it would be rock solid around the road wheels and tracks and in the morning the tanks couldn't move.

And it has to get REALLY REALLY damn cold for gasoline to freeze! Gasoline will still ignite at -97 degrees faranheit however for it to freeze solid it would have to hit -200 to -300 degrees depending on the mixture which is almost absolute zero kelvin.

However the oil would gel up to the point where it wouldn't be able to be pumped by the oil pump in the engine. Not to mention the Germans always prided themselves on tight tolerances in their engines, throw one of those tight by design engines in temps as cold as a Russian winters night and guess what, now that tight engine is a solid chunk of metal! :haha:

Don't forget the batteries also! What happens to them when it gets damn cold out? They can't put out the amount of power they were supposed to and half the time would be dead due to the cold.

Basicly the Germans just were not prepared to deal with that kind of cold.

Re: smokers

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:16 am
by tomhugill
jarndice wrote:finest fighter aircraft of second world war
Piffle. Was good as an escort fighter but there where far better built during the war.