
Weight balancing
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Re: Weight balancing
Can't say that I've noticed a queue forming outside my door waiting to fix my suspension! Good luck Painless hope it goes to plan, and ALPHA, you sir are a 100% stirrer, we had fellows like you in the Regiment, if there was'nt a fight going they would start one
shaun

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Re: Weight balancing
It might be simplest to add a counter weight. I know you can buy softer torsion bars but not seen stiffer ones.
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What fight???...Edwins design is excellent...it was my first two ways of beefing the suspension up.... basically replacing the torsion bar with a thick axle and putting Heng Long style springs on... very logical... but very labor intensive if you are just doing it on a workbench...the final design I sent to Painless is a simplified version which should only take an hour or so to install... the theory is like choking a baseball bat ...I did similar things on automobiles back in the day... especially the ones equipped with torsion suspensions like porsches and volkswagens...lowering the profile without loosing any bouncejarndice wrote:Can't say that I've noticed a queue forming outside my door waiting to fix my suspension! Good luck Painless hope it goes to plan, and ALPHA, you sir are a 100% stirrer, we had fellows like you in the Regiment, if there was'nt a fight going they would start oneshaun
It is also the basic idea behind binding leaf springs... by changing the detent or location of the clamps that bind them ..you alter the response from the leaf

So no beef or stuff stirred...just common translation of a very old theory

Happy Tanking Shaun

Pirozhiki

ALPHA
PS...you said you were redoing your suspension "arms"... not the springs lol....I have no idea how to service the arms ... but the torsion bars.. yeah I came up with four


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Hello bill.... they do sell thick spring wire...tripling the guage would do the job...but would require a heck load of work..."helper" springs would be another solution..and basically what Edwins design entails ...but again...one heck load of workbillpe wrote:It might be simplest to add a counter weight. I know you can buy softer torsion bars but not seen stiffer ones.
If Painless achieves success... ask him for the diagram or blueprint I sent him...it's really an easy solution...and very economical

ALPHA
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The Impact suspension is very similar to the one shown in your photos above. The front springs can be set up at a slightly different angle than the rest so that they would compensate for more weight.
However, I don't like the idea of spreading the stress unevenly so I'm leaning towards adding extra weight to the back instead, just behind the speaker. I was thinking of buying a few metal plates and drilling holes in them so that they fit with the pre-drilled holes in the bottom of the chassis. I could then put two long screws through them and actually "fine tune" the balance by adding or removing plates to my liking. Do you think it's a good idea?
However, I don't like the idea of spreading the stress unevenly so I'm leaning towards adding extra weight to the back instead, just behind the speaker. I was thinking of buying a few metal plates and drilling holes in them so that they fit with the pre-drilled holes in the bottom of the chassis. I could then put two long screws through them and actually "fine tune" the balance by adding or removing plates to my liking. Do you think it's a good idea?
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I think that what you propose is sort of defeating the purpose of the adjustable suspension. By stiffening the front torsion bars you won't have any ill effects
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Will the front springs not wear off quicker?tomhugill wrote:I think that what you propose is sort of defeating the purpose of the adjustable suspension. By stiffening the front torsion bars you won't have any ill effects

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If you mean by fatigue quicker then no. Some people like to keep their tanks on blocks to save the torsion bars.
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Great, thanks for help - as always! Blocks have crossed my mindtomhugill wrote:If you mean by fatigue quicker then no. Some people like to keep their tanks on blocks to save the torsion bars.

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Blocks under your tanks work... believe me you ...once you cross the median weight (6lbs) those springs really start to go no matter how beefy they aremangaroca wrote:Great, thanks for help - as always! Blocks have crossed my mindtomhugill wrote:If you mean by fatigue quicker then no. Some people like to keep their tanks on blocks to save the torsion bars.

ALPHA