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Re: Black steel gears
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:05 pm
by 971wright
Hi I have both lower ratio and standard ratio black steel gears .Both types run great use the low ratio gears for big tanks and standard ratio for small tanks .Have not had a problem with any of them ,I think they are the most reliable gearboxes around ,have even fitted 480 motors to some of them.
Only tank I had a struggle to get them in was a Mato Sherman ,had to shoe horn them in also had to cut a bit of gearbox to clear motor terminals ,but they are in now. Best value out there.(even better than Tamiya gearboxes in my opinion)
regards pete
Re: Black steel gears
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:41 pm
by whjohnson
So where do I get 4:1 black steel boxes for the Tiger 1?
Not sure if these are HL or a different brand?
Can they be had for £19.99?
Re: Black steel gears
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:21 pm
by lister fiend
wdm sell the 4:1 boxs
but not for twenty notes
try forty & make sure you get the short shaft ones if there going in a tiger 1
Re: Black steel gears
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:30 pm
by 971wright
Hi You can get them from Forgebear, hes a member on here .
regards pete
Re: Black steel gears
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:03 pm
by Saxondog
Hey Guys the gearbox ratio calculator is still active and located in the download section, its EXCEL which does need some updating with newer gearboxes.
But does allow a better understanding of the effect of gearbox / motor changes to our tanks. Weight is a factor as has been discussed, I have Asiatam 3/1 in my oldest Tiger which is also my second heaviest tank.I have changed pinion gears a few times and they have been cleaned and lubricated several times but have never failed.
Recently my Walterson Porsche has been used running against my Nephews Sherman both have the Walterson Gearboxes and run very well, The Sherman has been run very hard many times. Yet to date only problem has been a habit of the right hand sprocket bolt to back out. Finally we used lock tight to solve the problem.
I have the Mato King Tiger and want to convert using Waltersons but the Black set may be the better option, has anyone installed these into the Mato old school Henschel King Tiger?
Thanks Blake
downloads/ Catagory Software Tools
Re: Black steel gears
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:48 pm
by whjohnson
What brands are the WD ones?
Re: Black steel gears
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:47 pm
by cupoftea
whjohnson wrote:What brands are the WD ones?
They are Taigen and are a good product in my opinion:
http://www.welshdragonmodels.co.uk/taig ... 1754-p.asp
Please be aware though that they have a slightly larger diameter output shaft than the Heng Long standard and are best used with the metal drive sprockets.