Hello, Panther tank exhumation video, enjoy watching
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eytttrLLd4c
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Once I get through some if my projects I will be building my Ausf A as this exact vehicle, complete with the bridge boards that the 6 mountings on the hull sides were for.
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Re: Panther,exhumation
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After years in this hobby now I reckon I could pull off an A version but at least I have one version that could be a plausible reason for those mounts.
We will never know for sure.
The team at the then Littlefield Collection removed the mounts as they did not know what they were for. I held one and it was like a surge of energy went through me. So I built one as close as I could with the skill set I had then.
Its a great video of the recovery of the Panther, just a shame now its in as-new condition there is a legal fight for it.
No one seemed to care when it was a wreck.
After years in this hobby now I reckon I could pull off an A version but at least I have one version that could be a plausible reason for those mounts.
We will never know for sure.
The team at the then Littlefield Collection removed the mounts as they did not know what they were for. I held one and it was like a surge of energy went through me. So I built one as close as I could with the skill set I had then.
Its a great video of the recovery of the Panther, just a shame now its in as-new condition there is a legal fight for it.
No one seemed to care when it was a wreck.
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Re: Panther,exhumation
Lucky! I would love to see that vehicle one day, it's an incredible restoration.HERMAN BIX wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:57 am viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14376
After years in this hobby now I reckon I could pull off an A version but at least I have one version that could be a plausible reason for those mounts.
We will never know for sure.
The team at the then Littlefield Collection removed the mounts as they did not know what they were for. I held one and it was like a surge of energy went through me. So I built one as close as I could with the skill set I had then.
Its a great video of the recovery of the Panther, just a shame now its in as-new condition there is a legal fight for it.
No one seemed to care when it was a wreck.
As for the brackets some documents were found around a year ago ish. The lugs are for "Brückentafel" (bridge boards) it was part of a program that was also tested on a Tiger 1
Here are some images of the lugs on a Tiger


And here is part of the original diagram showing the mount

There is even a 1/35 scale kit for it already

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Well stone the crows!!!!
I still cant go with these as bridging equipment, look more like stand off armour !
For bridging, how are they deployed to ground ?...............to withstand the weight of a Panther/Tiger they would not be manually handleably by crew or infantry support surely?
For stand off armour-then yes, they look right.
Again, no one can be 100% certain.
Could I build a version of this then

I still cant go with these as bridging equipment, look more like stand off armour !
For bridging, how are they deployed to ground ?...............to withstand the weight of a Panther/Tiger they would not be manually handleably by crew or infantry support surely?
For stand off armour-then yes, they look right.
Again, no one can be 100% certain.
Could I build a version of this then


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HL TIGER 1
HL PzIII MUNITIONSCHLEPPER
HL KT OCTOPUS
HL PANTHER ZU-FUSS
HL STuG III
HL T34/85 BEDSPRING
HL PZIV MALTA
MATORRO JAGDTIGER
HL F05 TIGER
TAMIYA KT
HL PANTHERDOZER
HL EARLY PANTHER G
TAIGEN/RAM T34/76
HL AN-BRI-RAM SU-85
HL TIGER 1
HL PzIII MUNITIONSCHLEPPER
HL KT OCTOPUS
HL PANTHER ZU-FUSS
HL STuG III
HL T34/85 BEDSPRING
HL PZIV MALTA
MATORRO JAGDTIGER
HL F05 TIGER
TAMIYA KT
HL PANTHERDOZER
HL EARLY PANTHER G
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I don't have all the info but I would assume there is a removable pin that allows the boards to be dropped down.
If I remember correctly they are for decreasing ground pressure over soft ground. Drop them down in the right place, teeth to the ground and drive over to prevent getting stuck. I doubt they could take the weight of a full Panther or Tiger without full ground contact.
Considering this particular Panther was pulled from a river it makes me wonder if in desperation they tried to cross it with these boards at which point they broke and the vehicle fell in.
It's probably not the case as the river is far wider than these boards but it's an interesting thought.
If I remember correctly they are for decreasing ground pressure over soft ground. Drop them down in the right place, teeth to the ground and drive over to prevent getting stuck. I doubt they could take the weight of a full Panther or Tiger without full ground contact.
Considering this particular Panther was pulled from a river it makes me wonder if in desperation they tried to cross it with these boards at which point they broke and the vehicle fell in.
It's probably not the case as the river is far wider than these boards but it's an interesting thought.
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Re: Panther,exhumation
Still a PITA to deploy then recover, and if its an aid to cross soft ground, the stuff'n things will have to be lifted then placed ahead, the lifted and placed and so on........
However, great info and really good of you to share it.
Goes to show that the passage of time can give us all the chance to learn what might have been back in the day.
However, great info and really good of you to share it.
Goes to show that the passage of time can give us all the chance to learn what might have been back in the day.
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HL KT OCTOPUS
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HL PZIV MALTA
MATORRO JAGDTIGER
HL F05 TIGER
TAMIYA KT
HL PANTHERDOZER
HL EARLY PANTHER G
TAIGEN/RAM T34/76
HL AN-BRI-RAM SU-85
HL TIGER 1
HL PzIII MUNITIONSCHLEPPER
HL KT OCTOPUS
HL PANTHER ZU-FUSS
HL STuG III
HL T34/85 BEDSPRING
HL PZIV MALTA
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HL F05 TIGER
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HL PANTHERDOZER
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Re: Panther,exhumation
Yeah I can see why it never left limited testing. Wider tracks like Ostketten on the Panzer IV would have been a more sensible solution in my opinion.
I also just double checked my source, the guy who found the documents in the Bundesarchiv is the owner of Panzerart which is the company that makes the 1/35 scale kit!
I also just double checked my source, the guy who found the documents in the Bundesarchiv is the owner of Panzerart which is the company that makes the 1/35 scale kit!
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