Taigen turret on 2015 heng long wiring help

[BeavistheCat]

I suspect, having looked at a few wiring diagrams, that I may have found out what the problem is. I think that the HL Airsoft wiring has Yellow as Positive Common feed, whilst the Recoil is expecting Brown to be the positive. Connecting the std 3 pin from the IR Turret works on Elevation because I guess the MFU simply completes the circuit between Blue and Yellow - in this case the "BB" MFU is grounding Neg Blue, and what it thought was Positive Yellow. Firing the gun, however, makes the MFU ground Brown, which is positive to both neg yellow and Blue on the IR Turret, hence both motors working. I shall test my theory at some point when I get time.

[RobW]

Yes, the three pin is wired backwards. Start with the recoil and get that working - mine continuously elevated and the recoil motor ran backwards. Will be taking the turret to bits at some point to get the IR working & return it to KV 2 (Russian).

[BeavistheCat]

Hallelujah. Swapped the wires around and everything works. Once I manage to carve out some time, I will finish the detailed parts (adding Antenna to turret as it is an early Befehlswagon), install the ATRC (Komodo), sort out my Feifels (magnet mod) and then finish painting. Once I have done that, I will post a few pics. It probably will not be any time soon, as there are the small matter of a couple of bedrooms requiring attention, apparently......

[jarndice]

Beavis Hi.
I bought a pack of F102S (South-Countersunk)10mm Outside diameter x 3mm Inside diameter from -
http://www.first4magnets.com
I cut the round knobs from the tips of the air cleaner pipes and pin vised a starter hole for the self tapping screws that would hold the magnets, and then I screwed square headed bolts into the plastic air intake pipes.
Having done a dry run I took the bolts out and put them in when everything else was finished,
I had long ago bought a set of "ABER" air intake pipe PE but kept putting it off,
They are easy peasy to make up.
The plastic pipes and the "ABER" intake pipes are paired into long and short, try not to get them wrong, take the plastic pipe and lay it on the correct length aber PE then firmly grip the PE and wrap it tightly around the plastic pipe, it assumes its proper shape and looks great, You now have a choice whether to solder the seam or superglue it, either works well,
The round PE Pipe ends supplied looked like too much hard work and I left them off,
You may find as I did that the "ABER" PE Wrap is too long, I trimmed them down with my "Dremmel" and they look fine and to adjust the length exactly you are able to screw the bolts in the intake pipes in and out.
I was surprised how easy the job was, The hardest part was finding the right sized square headed bolts and in the end I filed 4 round headed bolts into shape.
Do make sure the bolts are made of iron/steel otherwise you are wasting your time.
Shaun.

[Bassetus44]

Hi,
Sorry for bothering the community in general on a topic that appears to be well thumbed over. But I have all the issues you discussed in this thread, ie. elevation continuous operating and no recoil or flash on left stick. This is accompanied by periodic random/uncontrolled firing sound and flash.

My setup is a new Taigen Panzer IV IR turret, complete with recoil and flash coupled with a Taigen 2.4 GHz V3, with the track recoil suppression option. The basic tank is a Heng Long Panzer IV standard BB model I’ve had brand new bit stashed for 4 years.

I’ve reversed the black and red on the hull three pin, red from pin 1 to pin three and black from pin 3 to pin 1. This sorted the elevation and random fire sound and flash, but still no recoil or controlled flash. I don’t know whether I have followed the discussed reversing of wiring correctly and where to attack next, but it has to be in the hull connector.

Any help would be much appreciated.

[PainlessWolf]

Good afternoon,
I am pretty much doing the same build as you for an early Pv IV 'F' The only difference is that I am using the matching TAIGEN deck to go with the new IR turret and gen 3 TX and RX. Just as a quick question, did you remember to turn the little switch under the hatch on the turret to 'On' when you connected everything up? Also, the ground wire for the IR unit is connected as well from the turret, right?
regards,
Painless

P.S. Bassetus44, before you get nudged by some of the Forum Members, you should go do the Introduction Thread and tell us a little bit about how you got into Scale Tanking. Pics of your tank would be appreciated as well since we like to kick the virtual road wheels around here and chat.

[Bassetus44]

Good morning Painless,

Thanks for the quick reply.

I don’t have a switch under the turret on this IR version, just the IR plug-in. Perhaps I need a ‘jumper’ as I’m not planning to install a hammer head etc. at the moment? Yes, I did attach the ground wire.

I’ll try to attach some photos, including the hull 3 pin with the red & black switched round and the top hatch opened.

Best regards,
Bassetus

[john1970]

Your wiring looks ok the reason your having to swap the 1 and 3 pin is because heng long put a socket on their 8 pin board so the plug can only connect in 1 way and the taigen 8 pin board has 3 pins sticking out so the plug can be connected either way round.
Check your recoil unit where the red wire connects to the elevation motor there should be another blue wire connecting it to the positive on the recoil motor and the flash wont work until the recoil triggers the micro switch once the recoil works the flash will work.

[Bassetus44]

Thanks for your help. I checked all connections last night and following advice from Forgebear, plugged the blue recoil ground into the ground on the Taigen MFU, instead of off the ground on the power switch.

The good news is I have recoil & flash......... the bad news is it continuously cycles without left stick input and with the just power on, without switching on start.

There are two microswitches on the recoil side of the unit; one of the simple open type at the end of the recoil stroke & the 2nd small enclosed type that is tripped by a spigot on the face of the large recoil gear. I will try to check their basic function today.

[john1970]

It will be the 2nd 1 with a yellow and black wire connected to it. it will need resetting as its not switching off the earth connection making the unit recoil continuously